• DingoBilly@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Yeah I don’t understand the issue.

    People want the fediverse to grow, so FB entering it is a good thing no? Otherwise realistically the fediverse will likely stagnate and always just take up a tiny bit of space.

    The more people involved the better. Sometimes I feel this group just wants to shoot themselves in the foot.

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      7 months ago

      I DON’T want the fediverse to grow if that growth is full of extremists, hate groups, porn bots, etc.

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        7 months ago

        But the fediverse already has that lol. I’ve had arguments here with extremists many times.

        You won’t just magically cure it by stopping FB from federating. Putting your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes doesn’t make it go away.

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          But we’re talking our current problem but instead expanded into a community 80 times the size of the fediverse. That’s a little more hate than we’ve got now, no?

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        7 months ago

        Lemmy already is full of extremists and hate groups. Perhaps you mean you don’t want hate groups you don’t agree with?

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          Even if this is somehow true (no clue who you federated with, man), we’re talking a community abt 80 times the size of the fediverse whose owner does not care and will not do anything other than dump its worst upon us.

          Even if they aren’t planning EEE, they might just be trying to rid of the fediverse by filling it with junk.

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            7 months ago

            There’s not much one can really do about that. You can block their instance or join one that does it for you but that still doesn’t stop them from joining the fediverse or seeing the content here. Being an open platform means that it’s also open for the actors you don’t like.

            With hate groups and extremists I was refering to the anti-right-wing, anti-capitalist, pro-socialism/communism, pro-anarchy, anti-AI, anti-facebook/twitter/google etc. sentiment that’s alive an well all over our frontpages here.

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              7 months ago

              anti-facebook/twitter/google

              Not extremists, just people who want their data to belong to them.

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      7 months ago

      The issue is that Meta’s intention is to extinguish the fediverse, not to add to it. I can’t believe people are still falling for this tactic.

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        But honestly, the fediverse is tiny and I find it’s not a suitable replacement for anything at the moment. It does need to have more people joining for it to be a complete replacement.

        As to whether Meta will extinguish it or not I don’t know, but at least in the short term it could help. I don’t think it’s reasonable to pre-emptively shoot your foot off because you might get gangrene - I’d rather wait to see it and then decide.

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          The fediverse just needs time to grow. It’s still a very new thing. Growth will take a long time, but the fediverse needs to be an alternative to corporate social media, not integrated with and dependent on it.

          It will be more difficult and damaging to defederate later when Meta starts throwing its weight around, because people will become accustomed to a much larger community. The fact that threads has many more users will give Meta disproportionate power over the fediverse, but unlike other open source/free projects, their only goals are to profit and gain more influence over society.

          It’s best to never federate with them, even if that means losing growth opportunities in the short term.