• Ech@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      If we’re bringing up Fallout, then Warhammer has to be in the mix. *And Starship Troopers/Helldivers while we’re at it.

      • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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        This is why it’s important to ask “Why do you love that?” Starship Troopers and Helldivers can be seen as fascist by those who don’t see deeper meaning in things. But both are satire, making fun of the thing by showing how it works and how ridiculous it looks. No one acts like a person, they talk like a movie trailer. Well adjusted folk will understand what they like and be able to elucidate it clearly. Idiots will parrot broad generalities and be unable to explore why they like that stuff (or they realize they are a monster and get defensive about it).

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          6 months ago

          Yes, what you described is the point of the meme and subsequent comments. People that like these things without understanding they’re satire are problematic.

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      Kinda? The Fallout series definitely attracts these kind of people, but the message of the games go completely over their heads. Because they can play out their facist fantasies, they don’t realize how those routes are showing what’s fucked up about that kind of thinking. If they could realize that sort of thing, they wouldn’t be have those sorts of fantasies in the first place.

      • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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        That’s my point, fascists idolize factions like the Enclave, Legion, or even Brotherhood, despite overt text and subtext decrying their views. The Fallout series as a whole is leftist, but is well-known for having a large subset of the fan base that is overtly fascist.