If you were looking for a new Indexer like I was, and were waiting for DS to open back up, head on over to https://drunkenslug.com/register
Now I host just gotta figure out how to use it lol. Last time I had anything to do with usenet, I still had hair.
Get a provider. r/usenet has a good list in their wiki. This is the “seeder”.
Sabnzbd or NZBget is the software you’ll need to do the actual downloading. This is like utorrent/qbittorrent/what ever you kids use these days.
Sonarr/radarr to automate.
Then once you have all that setup, overseerr to automate the automation.
I’m sorry, but I’m *arr exclusive
Are these other services paid or free? Trying to figure out what the total cost is and see if I can afford it lol.
Follow up question, is it relatively safe to pay DS with non-crypto, like paypal? I assume yes but gotta ask.
Indexers (like the torrent sites TPB, 1337x, etc) are not free. Some will let you get a free account, like DS, but you’re limited in downloads. They’ll give you .nzb (like .torrent) files.
Sab,nzbget, etc (like utorrent,qbitorrent) are free. They’re open source software to download the files you want utilizing the .nzb files.
Providers are paid. Usenet server, newsdemon, etc are the companies that host files for you to download. They’re basically like torrent “seeders” but it’s just one company and usually pretty fast. I don’t know of any free providers.
At minimum, you’ll have to pay for a provider. I got 80% off of one and I pay $37USD for a year. Others are ~$70CAD for a year. There is deals posted on reddit all the time so look around. You’ll never have to pay full price.
If you’re going to use Radarr or Sonarr (free, open source software) you should pay for an unlimited indexer, like DrunkenSlug, so you don’t hit the limits. I don’t know of any free unlimited ones. You can use the *arr’s with torrents but its not as good.
Thanks for the response!
Do you have a particular client (sabnzd/getnzb etc) you would reccomend?
In my limited research so far (at work trying not to get caught lol) it seems like r/usenet likes eweka so I’m thinking I may go with them, they boast “longest retention” and I like obscure shit, so sounds like the move for me, unless I’m missing something which is entirely possible, would you know if that one is good?
I just signed up for DS, but I’ll be paying for it probably friday, just gonna get the unlimited, the price diff is worth it and I like to download so I’d probably hit limits. Eweka isn’t the cheapest it looks like but it seems they have a deal right now.
As for the *arrs, do I need them, or can I just like, go to DS and search “Mars Needs Women” and click “download .nzb,” then unrar it if I have to and move it to my external for permanent storage like on a torrent site? I may get into them eventually but I’d really like to not have to do that, I need to set other shit up first. Some people I’m reading comments from around here and r/usenet (can’t comment on reddit though, no active acct) seem to suggest the *arrs are maybe necessary but I can’t quite figure out if they really are or not lol.
Thanks again for helping start my journey into usenet!
> Do you have a particular client (sabnzd/getnzb etc) you would reccomend?
I use Kubernetes (k3s specifically) to host
- image: linuxserver/sabnzbd:latest
- image: linuxserver/sonarr:latest
- image: linuxserver/radarr:latest
- image: crazymax/rtorrent-rutorrent:latest (in the same pod with a wireguard container to a VPN provider)
so I guess I’d recommend sabnzbd. However, I’ve heard that others are “better”. I’ve had no problems with sab.
> would you know if that one is good?
So, This is where I’m not 100% sure myself. I know there are a LOT of resellers and I’m not sure how up to date this map is but it’s worth looking at. Anything on the same backbone should have the same file available.
An EU server that observes NTD is suggested as per this post. From my understanding they’re slower to remove copyright infringing files. I only download linux ISOs so this doesn’t matter to me.
“longest retention” isn’t really a big deal. It seems that the hard to find and old shit are not on any Indexer I have. Meaning there’s not NZB file for me to even try to download… I usually fall back to Torrent and jackett but there’s also bin search that can turn up files some times.
A lot of people will get a primary provider for the year then buy a “block” of data from a different provider on a different backbone. You can set the priority in sab to only use the primary unless some files are missing, then look at the backup. Personally I have a yearly sub of NewsDemon (SUPER cheap offer so I cant leave) and usenetserver. Neither of them have 100% available requested articles. YMMV.
> I just signed up for DS, but I’ll be paying for it probably friday, just gonna get the unlimited, the price diff is worth it and I like to download so I’d probably hit limits. Eweka isn’t the cheapest it looks like but it seems they have a deal right now.
I have no experience with DS but everyone seems to love it. I’ll be using the free account when my other indexers do not have what I’m looking for… nzbgeek and nzbplanet have lifetime accounts and nzb.su seems to be another good one people suggest.
> I just like, go to DS and search “Mars Needs Women” and click “download .nzb,” then unrar it if I have to and move it to my external for permanent storage like on a torrent site?
The process would be
- go to DS
- search for whatever
- Download .nzb
- add the .nzb to sabnzbd
- wait for sabnzbd to download it from your provider.
- if it was succeessful, extract files, move to where you want it.
- else, find a new .nzb and add it to sab and hope that one works.
> As for the *arrs, do I need them,
you don’t need the *arrs. if you do not get them, then I’d suggest staying with the free DS account. The paid is more for automation.
> seem to suggest the *arrs are maybe necessary but I can’t quite figure out if they really are or not lol.
Usenet without the *arr’s is basically saying “I’ve paid for the bus but I’m going to walk”.
I do nothing. I sleep at night and go about my day. when I want to watch TV I open up Plex and go to “recently added” to see what the *arrs have got for me. I use to get my stuff manually but waking up Monday Morning to Futurama ready to watch is very nice. When someone says “have you seen XXX” I say nope but I’ll add it to my list. Open up *arr and add it. Couple hours later I have all of it. I’ll add a movie I want to see that’s not out yet. When it is, It’ll be in plex.
Happy to answer any more questions you have. Just ask away.
Thanks a lot, you’ve definitely helped me a bunch! I’ll figure out what provider I’ll go with soon and try it out!
As for the *arrs, yeah, but then I have to set up a nextcloud instance or jellyfin server too, and while I want to do all of the above I am made of neither money or time so it’s a slow rollout and I’d still like to make use of what I do have now, which is a 5tb external hdd and a 2013ish laptop with 8gb ddr3 and an i5, and a 1080p lcd from like 2009.
I think you’ve answered all the questions I have so far but I’ll lyk, thanks!
For sure! Good luck! I’d suggest not paying for DS until you hit the free limit, then you can decide if you want to pay or wait a day for 25 more downloads. To be honest, I doubt you will hit the limit but I could be wrong.
I’m not sure where nextcloud comes in but I get your point. Cheers!
Thank you!
Replying here to bookmark your comment. Thanks!
I was going to point out the ⭐ bookmark feature, but I see you’re on kbin - I guess they don’t have that feature?
I’m happy to help if you do actually want to set anything up. Same goes for anyone else in here :)
I’ve got Sonarr/Radarr/Lidarr/NZBGet/Jackett/Overseer/Bazarr/Heimdall/Headphones/Transmission all running in docker containers, with tailscale giving easy and secure remote access, and have configured them many times on many setups, and I know how daunting/frustrating it can be.
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Messaged :)
I’m going to send you a message here in a little bit, I’d love to get this set up in a similar fashion.
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Literally never used Usenet, but I guess I’m about to start. Is this a good indexer?
Its a great indexer. This and nzbgeek and I need pretty much nothing else
What’s a good server?
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9/10 favorite indexer
Do you have to have a specific Usenet provider to work with specific indexers? I still have no idea how Usenet works.
No, you don’t have to
Prowlarr is all I, and most people, will ever need.
Thanks for letting me know. I just signed up now.
What is this? A usenet place?
It’s a private usenet indexer that periodically opens registrations; essentially the usenet equivalent of a private torrent tracker like TorrentLeech.
Nice. Thanks!
i often wondered about this site having now tried it gonna say i’m disappointed, with my news provider every file i tried to download has been dcma’d, with the other FREE and open sites i use this isn’t the case. I can pull files up to 10years old with no issues. I’m guessing they don’t use obfuscation when posting nzbs or their site has been compromised.
Do the limits expand over time, or is it always so limited for a free account?
Yeah, Usenet isn’t free. You’re gonna have to pay to get a decent indexer experience.
Probably my favorite indexer that I use although nzbfinder, nzbgeek, and nzbplanet have been just as good for me. Definitely recommend!
Is there a tutorial on how to set this up on NZBget?
Nzbget is a downloader. Drunkenslug is a usenet indexer. You can’t configure an indexer in a downloader. You’re probably thinking about a usenet provider. Usenet providers need to be added in the configuration of your downloader.
A decent indexer costs money and a provider costs money.
To automate everything, you would want to take a look at Sonarr and Radarr.
Btw. I would recommend Sabnzbd over Nzbget anyway.
Brb, subscribing to netflix
Once you have everything set up with sonarr, radarr, Plex, etc… You will have your own Netflix with all the content you want. And with minimal input of your own. Everything is automated. New episodes will automatically download. Movies will download as soon as they are available in your desired quality. It IS worth it.
When you have everything set up you will pay the equivalent to Netflix 4K.
I would pay double of Netflix 4k if that meant I had everything from all streaming services. But realistically. You could just set everything up and share access to the plex server with friends and family and share the cost with them. It’s a win win in that case.
This is just good cable with extra steps and input…IMO not worth it to pirate at that price.
just add stuff to watch later and switch subs of providers if enough accumulated.To each their own I guess.
You don’t set indexers up on NZBGet, you set them up on Sonarr/Radarr/CouchPotato/etc. They watch your media library and will search the indexer (DrunkenSlug) when there should be a new episode/release (or to find missing ones). If it finds it on DrunkenSlug, it then passes that download over to NZBGet to download it using whoever your Usenet provider is.
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Thank you for the heads up! Haven’t quite figured out usenet yet (never used it before) but will at some point.
Thank you!
