I’m really confused about this. On one hand (✋), I can see how dating an autistic person would be amazing because we would just understand each other on another level. We would get each other’s emotions, meltdowns, joy, special interests, hyperfocus, communication style, etc. Also, there’s no NT partner to miss whatever NT thing we don’t bring to the relationship.
On the other hand (🤚), we definitely have some deficiencies that NTs don’t. Having an NT can help us regulate, keep us updated on social matters that we completely miss, take care of a baby that’s wailing crying, and other strengths that we just don’t have, while at the same time, we contribute with our own strengths that they don’t have.
NTs, please feel free to contribute! Your opinion and experiences are important too 🙂
I’d love to see a discussion on this topic. So what do you think?
Yeah, here’s the thing about dating another neurodivergent person: their needs may be exactly what your boundaries are. For example, someone who is completely touch averse pairing with someone who is touch seeking and rejection sensitive. And since they’re not trying to be malicious but both of you are more or less intractable because you can only change or compromise on your needs through heavy and painful masking, it can be disastrous.
Also, neurodivergent people can be more ableist than allistic due to how they’ve internalized criticism and taught themselves to mask.
Now this is all situational and a neurotypical person can be the same way, which is why I say it really doesn’t matter if you date a neurodivergent person or a neurotypical person. It’s about finding a partner that can empathize and respects you.
I would advise against choosing a date based on wether their autistic or not unless their is a clear pattern of one not working out.
Everyone is still different, there are emotionally deep neurotypicals and neurodivergents with an opposite emotional existence.
That said, me and my partner do both have a diagnosis and I couldn’t see it be any other way.
I’ve tried to date fellow autistics, and it has never gone well. My longest lasting relationships have all been with other neurodivergent people, but all of whom have different issues. There’s something to be said for the closeness of having neurodivergences that are divergent.
I married my wife and later we were talking (she knew I was autistic and she has ADHD) and realized she’s probably on the spectrum too, just in different ways than I
To be honest, it works out well, since our characteristics are complementary. Whether that’s down to being neurodivergent or not, I can’t say.
My ex I dated for 5 years before that had ADHD too, now that I think about it…. And my best friend realized he’s autistic last year, and we’ve been friends over a decade… Maybe neurodivergent attracts neurodivergent?
Let me put it this way. I’ve been with my husband for 20 years now and back then we both thought we were NT. By now we both know we’re not 😂
If I may ask a related question, how important is neurotype compared to other things?
The double empathy problem is indeed a thing, but I wonder if it trumps other relationship needs.
Sure, you can both be autistic, but if you have no interests in common and just don’t meet each other’s relationship needs, then it likely isn’t going to work.
And maybe it doesn’t matter if two people don’t share a neurotype if they understand each other and can work around each other’s quirks. Supposedly there’s a number of NT people that find info-dumping “cute”.
I dated a NT who loved my rants. This was before I got my diagnosis. they’re out there and I’d agree it’s more about compatibility - just keep living your life and see who you come across :)
You’re rolling the dice either way. I can see the relatability being potentially higher with another autist, but there’s also the possibility that your stim is their meltdown trigger (or the other way around). Honestly, it’s just a matter of finding someone that complements you & appreciates your quirks, regardless of whether they’re NT or ND.
I believe I’ve only ever dated NTs up to this point, but I know plenty ND people. It’s a mixed bag. Everyone will bring something different to the table and you just have to find something that meshes well with you. Some of my ND friends I would not fathom living with, let alone a romantic relationship, but same could be said for some NTs.
Someone who is understanding of you and respectful of your needs (and you theirs) is what a healthy relationship demands, that is not exclusive to NT or ND. Some people may jive better or have weaknesses covered by someone of the opposite, or of the same.
I don’t think either are a good indicator of whether a relationship will work out or not. Each person is different and I’ve had good and bad relationships with normies and aspies alike.
I’m resigned to being single till I die. But I think either option has its pros and cons. End of the day though if you love someone and they love you it’s possible to work through stuff if you communicate.
I just recently got my first gf, and she’s NT (or at least, she’s not Autistic; I think she may be undiagnosed ADHD). Finding an NT who was accepting of me was difficult, but I think it was the better option. I was definitely open to the idea of dating another autist, but ultimately I tend to have kinda a low tolerance for the mannerisms of people who don’t mask as well as I do, so it would have to have been someone on the same exact part of the spectrum as me, which is hard to find.
I would probably not go back to dating NTs except if very reflected and also an autistic ally. Being with an autistic person can be infuriating at times but the level of „you just understand“ is wayyyy different from anything else. Tbf, I‘m married and we‘re together for almost a decade now so emotional maturity has def changed a lot.
The amount of internalized ableism you have to overcome with anyone who isnt at least hyper aware of autism is no joke though. Maybe possible for a „lifer“ so to speak, so someone who knew of their diagnosis all their life but def not fun for me who is quite late diagnosed and needs to learn to be themselves.
P.S.: of yourse it is you again… ;)
I’m currently dating someone who is not diagnosed with something but is definitely not neurotypical. I only dated one person before when I was 16 and that didn’t really go well, we didn’t talk much I don’t know how it worked really. That first relationship was with a neurotypical person
Ive never dated anyone whos been diagnosed with anything, but I am certainly attracted to quirky people. The last long term relationship was a bit of a train wreck, and I suspect there was some autism there, but she was only ever diagnosed with anxiety, although her cousin, who her family said was just like her, was eventually diagnosed as autistic. We had very different levels of emotional maturity though and that caused a lot of problems, especially around conflict resolution. I suspect she had a personality disorder in tow.
I think you should just assess each person individually and not really screen for divergence. Most people arent going to open with ‘hi im autistic’ anyway, and you could end up doing yourself a disservice worrying about if they fit with you on paper verses just finding out if you fit together organically.
Dang your dating, im too socially aqward too. I had a chat with a nice girl my age at the store the other day and gave her my number. And i honestly felt like i stood out like a sore thumb. I ended the interation with giving her my phone number. She didnt message me for 2 days and i felt like i did a shit job at talking to her. She eventually did and we talked, she got a bf :/. I am ND high fuctioning btw and im still happy to have her as a freind.
How do you guys get the courage to talk to people, im so aqward and i feel like i suck at talking to people i dont know.
Aswell as i have thought about if a ND would be good to have as a partner. I personally think that would work out great (assuming shes not too crazy) because. I dont mean this in the wrong way, but alot NT dont understand what its like to be ND and the challages that come with that.
I’m not dating anything. I was fantasizing about it and thought that if maybe an opportunity came along, I could engage or disengage…or I don’t know. I’m just trying to make a game plan here. This loneliness crap is getting old.
You and me same brother