• Nudding@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    You don’t think America has any share of the blame for enabling this genocide?

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      8 months ago

      The US is not blameless for what is going on.

      However, ultimately Israel is the country that is carrying this out, if people like Netanyahu and his cohorts weren’t pushing for this, it wouldn’t matter how much money, weapons, and other support the US gave them, this wouldn’t be happening.

      If the US pulled all support, Israel could and almost definitely would press on with it, probably not as efficiently as they are currently, but still the war would continue. Maybe the US pulling support would lead to a quicker end, maybe it would just drag things out, maybe it would lead to extreme escalation with a desperate Israel choosing to use their nuclear weapons either against Hamas or against other Middle Eastern nations that choose to get involved without the US acting as a deterrent.

      The US helped create the circumstances that allowed this to happen, but the fact that it is actually happening is on Israel.

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        8 months ago

        If the US pulled all support, Israel could and almost definitely would press on with it, probably not as efficiently as they are currently, but still the war would continue. Maybe the US pulling support would lead to a quicker end, maybe it would just drag things out, maybe it would lead to extreme escalation with a desperate Israel choosing to use their nuclear weapons either against Hamas or against other Middle Eastern nations that choose to get involved without the US acting as a deterrent.

        Yeah just like the previous three times the US threatened to pull support and israel instantly stopped doing war crimes…

        People are still under the impression that the army that got completely owned by dudes with water pipe rockets can support a full war without American support? Especially with Hezbollah in the north…

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        8 months ago

        The US is not blameless for what is going on.

        Exactly what I said.

        The US helped create the circumstances that allowed this to happen

        Yep.

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          8 months ago

          For a while, there was a meme on Reddit that went “This is bullshit - you’re oversimplifying a complex situation to the point of no longer adding anything useful to the discussion.”

          It was somebody’s answer to an askreddit post asking “If you could only post the same one sentence to everything you wanted to reply to on reddit, what would your sentence be?”

          People like you are the reason that answer resonated with enough people to become a meme.

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            8 months ago

            Do you know that Biden structured (very illegal) the arms deals so that they were less than the congressional oversight minimum so that he could go behind congress’ back? He wanted to give those weapons to Israel so bad that he broke the law. He doesn’t give a fuck about the genocide. At least not until he realized it would cost him some votes.

            People like you are the reason evil gets a pass because it’s not as bad as super evil.