In today’s example of “this is why I blog”: as I implement Zone 2 training for doing distance running again I was lamenting not having done so for my 2013 marathon training. According to my race recap post it turns out I did implement Zone 2 training. Well, I thought I had anyway. Looking back over the data however it is pretty clear that I did not. That’s not just a question of my race performance, where I threw all of that to the wind anyway, but also looking at the training data from that era as well.

“[A]s I implement Zone 2 training for doing distance running again I was lamenting not having done so for my 2013 marathon training. . . I thought I had. . … Looking back over the data however it is pretty clear that I did not.”

  • hankg@friendica.myportal.social
    4·
    6 months ago

    @fivemmvegemite @marvinfreeman Ironically, on my 9 mile run yesterday I was listening to this podcast (among others) where she discussed not running more than 3 hours at a time. She PR’d her next marathon doing that guidance even though the longest she ran was 16 miles before then. One way she gets higher volume in a day is by doing two runs a day so evening run for 3 hours, then a 10 mile run the next morning. She referred to “The Hansons Method”, which I haven’t looked at. I’m personally doing 80% training so have one speed day on the road and one HIIT/Tabata bike day as well.

    • marvinfreeman@lemmy.worldOP
      4·
      6 months ago

      The Hansons Method

      https://www.runtothefinish.com/hanson-marathon-training-method-review/

      Consider this your Cliff Notes version of Hanson running plans overall. These are the key concepts of the Hanson Method for half marathon and marathon training:

      • High mileage

      • 6 days of running

      • Speed emphasis early in the training plan

      • No planned cross training – in fact, they seem to do very little strength training

      • Cumulative fatigue – “The development of fatigue through the long term effects of training which results in in a profound increase in running strength”

      • 3 “SOS” (Something Of Substance) workouts per week–speed work, tempo run at goal race pace and long run

      • Longest run is 16 miles for most people

      Obviously you may have heard of this training program thanks to the incredible success of Desi Linden. She gives them a lot of credit, but also noted that she reached a point where this wasn’t the best option for her any more

        • marvinfreeman@lemmy.worldOP
          2·
          6 months ago

          I hadn’t heard of the Hansons Method either. Last year, I started two runs a day once or twice a week. Unsurprisingly, it was easier on my body than running the same distance continuously. And I didn’t feel as fatigued over all as my weekly mileage increased. My form was better, too.

          But as to the big questions: Did I have as much endurance? Was I faster? I really don’t know. I wasn’t significantly slower.

          • hankg@friendica.myportal.social
            1·
            6 months ago

            @marvinfreeman I don’t so much mind the two runs a day part, or even running two days in a row. Although, I’ve only run two days in a row a handful of times. If I ever get to training runs that require me to run way more than 3 hours I could see that sort of breaking it up. The part that didn’t resonate with me was the high mileage, six days of running, and no cross-training. For me this is primarily a longevity play with a mix of strength and cardio training to which I’m adding a secondary goal of doing longer distance races. I could potentially see the advantage if the racing was my primary focus though.

    • fivemmvegemite@aussie.zone
      2·
      6 months ago

      I’ll take a look! 2x runs in a day sounds like a good way to get around that limit, although that would require finding the time to do 2x runs in a day :D