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Game development requires no understanding of game theory.
Then I have misunderstood the term, I apologize.
when not only did you never form a relationship with God, but you never even learned Jesus’s teachings.
You cannot speak for me. At the time I fully believed I had such a relationship. And I absolutely was raised as a christian, having been tought Jesus’ word.
I quoted from the Sermon on the Mount to you. This is literally Gospel.
That doesn’t mean it is true though.
Again, I strongly advise you to study Matthew 6:24-34.
Yeah, it’s all kind of just meaningless to me. It would be like if I told you to read a passage with a vague moral from a Star Trek book. It’s all just fiction, made by men.
Apology accepted. In case you’re curious to learn about it, you might click here. It’s a good topic for online classes, in case you ever find yourself with spare time.
I absolutely was raised as a christian, having been tought Jesus’ word.
Did they skip all the parts about mammon, or did you just ignore them? They’re fairly central to Jesus’s ministry.
That doesn’t mean it is true though [that it’s Gospel].
It does, in fact.
Yeah, it’s all kind of just meaningless to me. It would be like if I told you to read a passage with a vague moral from a Star Trek book. It’s all just fiction, made by men.
Even if it was written in Klingon, I’d do my best to read it and wrap my head around the point you were trying to make.
All of the Bible verses I’ve quoted to you and linked to you have been (by far) the wisest and truest words I’m able to speak. In most if not all cases, they’ve provided the point I was trying to make. So I find it discouraging and disheartening to know you haven’t been reading them, and seriously considering them.
Whenever you encounter a quote from the Bible, begin by thinking to yourself that you’re about to read something true and holy — even if you don’t believe that yet, start out by telling yourself that. Then ask God — and I know you deny Him, but at least try your best to ask God — that you may receive His holy words with a sober mind, and that you may unquestioningly accept their eternal truth. Then read, and reread, and read once more, the passage until you know it well. Read the context of the passage, as much context as needed, and read it in various other translations, to help you deeply understand its truth.
And with that, yet again, I strongly advise you to study Matthew 6:24-34. That’s certainly not the only thing you ought to read, but it’d be a solid start.
Apology accepted. In case you’re curious to learn about it, you might click here. It’s a good topic for online classes, in case you ever find yourself with spare time.
Thank you, I’ll try to take a look at some point.
Did they skip all the parts about mammon, or did you just ignore them? They’re fairly central to Jesus’s ministry.
No matter what I answer here, it will just feed into this no true scottsman fallacy you have with the definition of “christian”.
It does, in fact.
It seems that you are beginning with the premise that it is true. Again, that would ultimately mean that much of what you say is based on a circular argument.
I’d do my best to read it and wrap my head around the point you were trying to make.
I’m not talking about understanding though. I’m talking about the value you derive from something you read. I don’t get any value out of bible verses. It’s just junk to me even if I understand it.
So I find it discouraging and disheartening to know you haven’t been reading them, and seriously considering them.
I’ve definitely been reading them. But it’s next to impossible for me to take them seriously when the whole think is so wrong.
No matter what I answer here, it will just feed into this no true scottsman fallacy you have with the definition of “christian”.
I don’t have that fallacy in my definition of “Christian” at all. A Christian is a genuine follower of Christ, of which there are many, and many more every day. The fact that some people claim to be Christian without actually following Christ does not mean there’s no true Christian. It’s entirely possible for you to choose to become Christian.
I don’t get any value out of bible verses. It’s just junk to me even if I understand it.
The only value we can have in life comes from God. When someone gives you a Bible verse, that is likely the most valuable thing you receive all day, if not all year.
And on that point, we have reached an impasse. I must abide by 2 Timothy 3:2-5, and turn away:
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Thank you for all of this thought-provoking conversation. I wish you all of the best, and I pray you may yet find God.
The fact that some people claim to be Christian without actually following Christ does not mean there’s no true Christian. It’s entirely possible for you to choose to become Christian.
That’s not what a no true scotsman fallacy means. It’s a fallacious way to deflect people from being a part of a group. It is not a statement that no such group exists.
The only value we can have in life comes from God. When someone gives you a Bible verse, that is likely the most valuable thing you receive all day, if not all year.
Then it’s quite odd how I have value in my life despite it being secular. It’s almost like there are many sources of value in life beyond religion.
Thank you for all of this thought-provoking conversation
You are welcome. And thank you for keeping this as civil as it has been.
I pray you may yet find God
Like I said, you’re not the first so I wouldn’t bet on that.
Then I have misunderstood the term, I apologize.
You cannot speak for me. At the time I fully believed I had such a relationship. And I absolutely was raised as a christian, having been tought Jesus’ word.
That doesn’t mean it is true though.
Yeah, it’s all kind of just meaningless to me. It would be like if I told you to read a passage with a vague moral from a Star Trek book. It’s all just fiction, made by men.
Apology accepted. In case you’re curious to learn about it, you might click here. It’s a good topic for online classes, in case you ever find yourself with spare time.
Did they skip all the parts about mammon, or did you just ignore them? They’re fairly central to Jesus’s ministry.
It does, in fact.
Even if it was written in Klingon, I’d do my best to read it and wrap my head around the point you were trying to make.
All of the Bible verses I’ve quoted to you and linked to you have been (by far) the wisest and truest words I’m able to speak. In most if not all cases, they’ve provided the point I was trying to make. So I find it discouraging and disheartening to know you haven’t been reading them, and seriously considering them.
Whenever you encounter a quote from the Bible, begin by thinking to yourself that you’re about to read something true and holy — even if you don’t believe that yet, start out by telling yourself that. Then ask God — and I know you deny Him, but at least try your best to ask God — that you may receive His holy words with a sober mind, and that you may unquestioningly accept their eternal truth. Then read, and reread, and read once more, the passage until you know it well. Read the context of the passage, as much context as needed, and read it in various other translations, to help you deeply understand its truth.
And with that, yet again, I strongly advise you to study Matthew 6:24-34. That’s certainly not the only thing you ought to read, but it’d be a solid start.
Thank you, I’ll try to take a look at some point.
No matter what I answer here, it will just feed into this no true scottsman fallacy you have with the definition of “christian”.
It seems that you are beginning with the premise that it is true. Again, that would ultimately mean that much of what you say is based on a circular argument.
I’m not talking about understanding though. I’m talking about the value you derive from something you read. I don’t get any value out of bible verses. It’s just junk to me even if I understand it.
I’ve definitely been reading them. But it’s next to impossible for me to take them seriously when the whole think is so wrong.
I don’t have that fallacy in my definition of “Christian” at all. A Christian is a genuine follower of Christ, of which there are many, and many more every day. The fact that some people claim to be Christian without actually following Christ does not mean there’s no true Christian. It’s entirely possible for you to choose to become Christian.
The only value we can have in life comes from God. When someone gives you a Bible verse, that is likely the most valuable thing you receive all day, if not all year.
And on that point, we have reached an impasse. I must abide by 2 Timothy 3:2-5, and turn away:
Thank you for all of this thought-provoking conversation. I wish you all of the best, and I pray you may yet find God.
That’s not what a no true scotsman fallacy means. It’s a fallacious way to deflect people from being a part of a group. It is not a statement that no such group exists.
Then it’s quite odd how I have value in my life despite it being secular. It’s almost like there are many sources of value in life beyond religion.
You are welcome. And thank you for keeping this as civil as it has been.
Like I said, you’re not the first so I wouldn’t bet on that.