It’s definitely an issue that’s not going away. The DNC really needs to figure it out and stop pretending that it doesn’t matter to voters.
It’s definitely an issue that’s not going away. The DNC really needs to figure it out and stop pretending that it doesn’t matter to voters.
The alternative being a ~4 years younger criminal without any morals.
How about another Dem which Biden backs and fully promotes?
It doesn’t have to be a Hobson’s choice of dinosaurs, the Dems are forcing this situation upon America. It’s not too late for someone else to step in.
Biden: #PleaseDropOut
Yes it absolutely is too late for someone else to step in. You’re voting for Biden or you’re holding the door open for Trump. The sooner you come to terms with that, that better you’ll feel about it.
No, I think it’s too late for someone to try and beat Biden in the primary (though I did vote for a challenger, personally). But if Biden came out and said:
Then I think it’d probably go over smoothly. Newsom used above purely as an example - there are a lot of people I’d personally prefer… also, there’s Kamala Harris - the person voted second most likely to lose an election, after her mentor of course.
“Biden performs better against Trump than Harris, Newsom: Poll”
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4470956-biden-trump-harris-newsom-poll/
So why Harris or Newsom over Biden?
i think op was staying that neither of them are ‘valid’ candidates
that’s how i took it anyway
Thank you. I’ve been trying to get this message across. Any vote for anyone other than Biden is a vote in favor of fascism and ushers in our first dictator which likely won’t be trump, it will be whoever takes over when he has a heart attack or something.
Feel free to vote for whoever you want in the primary, that includes writing in your pet if you feel like it. In the big show, anyone who actually likes our freedom and democracy (with its myriad of flaws) will vote Biden, everyone else will vote for dictatorship even if it doesn’t look like it in the moment.
Wait until the convention. The DNC will pick his replacement.
You need to go to bed and let the adults talk.
You better HOPE they replace Biden at the convention if you really want to defeat Trump.
Seriously. Go sit in the corner and eat your paste, the adults are talking.
Don’t cry to me when Dems lose then.
Liberals in their smug arrogance love to infantilize.
Ozma’s opinion is that of the optimistic juvenile. They’re absolutely wrong, but it’s going to take them one or more failed election cycles to learn that. It’s OK to be optimistic, the realism will creep in later.
Yeah, this guy that first started voting during the Reagan years know that this approach is not wrong. What’s juvenile is doing the same thing repeatedly election after election after election expecting different results from the exact same people that fucked us over the last time because of some big boogie man that they have sold you. 50 years of the supposed lesser evil has grown so enormous they don’t even recognize what is evil any longer. Where they can witness the guy they support committing a genocide halfway around the world and they believe that the other guy is more dangerous. And claim that he is completely defenseless to prevent these deaths. If the exact same circumstances were happening with Trump in office, every single liberal in this country would be in an uproar and demand that he bring it to a stop insisting he has the power and the ability to bring it to a stop. But now claim that Biden is powerless.
This is correct. If Biden “wins the primary”, then immediately steps down, it becomes a battle for delegates at the convention. Of course the invisible hand of the DNC will actually choose, but it will at least have the surface level appearance of a democratic process.
If the DNC is so concerned about protecting democracy from fascism, then they need to instruct Biden to step down immediately and stop wasting time before tapping his replacement.
Biden’s approval rating is in the gutter. No incumbent in federal office has ever come back to win with such a disastrously low approval rating, not once in the history of USA. You’re telling me Biden is the one who will buck the norm and mount a miraculous comeback? If you really think this, then it appears Blue MAGA is real after all. Get a clue, Jack.
It’s not about my feefees for “my team”. This is about seriously addressing the threat of fascism head on, and recognizing the truth that polling data is telling us - Biden isn’t going to cut it, and virtually any other Dem will do. Americans just don’t want to vote for Biden. The sooner you come to terms with that, the better chance we have of avoiding another disastrous Trump presidency.
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3889
Who do you suggest that will do better than that?
Why does it have to be these 5 specific people? I know that DC establishment is pushing hard for these to be the choices in November, but in a healthy democracy we would have an actual democratic primary where Biden could prove his candidacy is superior to the challengers. This should be done through vigorous debate, and campaigning hard on an actual platform from which to lead the nation at a time when we desperately need real leadership. Doing this has the added benefit of broadcasting Dem messaging far and wide with lots of free media coverage.
The last thing we need is another 4 years of giving corporations everything and more. Dems are so embroiled in fake Repugnantcon controversy they won’t even bother to dignify a primary race with Biden’s participation. It’s just a really bad look if you’re claiming democracy is on the line this year, and is an incredibly poor strategy to motivate voters to make it to the polls.
To answer your question, I’d vote Cenk Uygur in a heartbeat. His platform is most closely aligned with my own beliefs, and I’m 100% convinced he would end or seriously mitigate the endemic corruption in our political system within a 4 year term. We’d get paid family leave, significantly increased minimum wage, meaningful student debt relief, and mandatory federal background checks for firearm purchases, guaranteed. We’d also have a real shot at a nationalized healthcare system. These are massively popular policy positions which the majority of Americans support, on both sides of the political divide.
Weird picking a genocide denier who made enough controversial statements Bernie pulled his endorsement before Cenk tried to Uno Reverse it by claiming he didn’t accept any endorsements.
On the Bernie endorsement retraction during Cenk’s congressional run, yeah I’m sure that stung a bit. They’ve been allies for quite some time now. But this has always been a Bernie problem - he’s way too nice to his esteemed colleagues in DC. I think Cenk saying he didn’t accept endorsements was just to provide cover for Bernie and smooth out the debacle a bit, but he definitely did accept it when it came through initially.
Cenk is ostracized from establishment politicians in DC and in the media because he constantly challenges the status quo, and fights hard for progressive policies. He would do this 10 fold in elected office. Why do you think this is such a terrifying prospect?
While most Turkish people struggle to come to terms with the genocide, Cenk has long since admitted the Armenian genocide was a thing. But ok keep holding his comments from the 90s against him in perpetuity.
Weird how bringing up really old statements and positions up as a reason not to vote for someone is ok for the people you don’t want to vote for, but it’s bad when it’s the people you support.
Because those are the five who are running and no one else has said they want to run.
Voting for someone who doesn’t want to run for president in the first place does not sound like a good plan.
cenkforamerica.com my friend, he’s running. So are Phillips and Williamson, and so too would be O’Rourke, Newsom, and other high profile dems if the DNC were holding a primary in good faith. They’re not.
Of course, you won’t ever hear about political outsiders on the left in corporate media, other than perhaps occasional opportunities to denigrate them and their ideas. This is because those are real populists who would enact meaningful change, ending the terrible and corrupt system under which the vast majority of us are suffering. The same system by which the multinational media machines make their billions in ad revenue and control the narrative in near totality.
Ah yes, let’s all vote for the guy who is not constitutionally eligible for the office. Brilliant move.