Love. This. Comment.
This have to be bot.
Edit: thanks for the gold, stranger!
Edit2: ohh god i hate you guys.
Hell yeah!
Fuck yesssss
This needs a coffee mug.
This just became my new favorite saying.
This!
🙌😍
I approve!
Love. This. Comment.
I’m using this in my daily life now
It’s probably a whole set of bots and the responses to “this needs to be a coffee mug” are some other account saying “I found one!” and that’s the whole point of the comment chain. Someone has a crappy mug to sell and constructs scenarios that seem natural ish to introduce it.
There used to be a big issue on Tumblr years ago with bots trolling for comments like that and then stealing whatever picture that comment was on to sell crappy t-shirts of it or whatever. People started fighting back by posting those comments specifically on Disney stuff.
My man!
THIS! THIS RIGHT HERE 💯🎉‼️
Today you. Tomorrow me.
That was cringe but I think a better reason NOT to return to reddit is the fact that they just sold out their users to an AI company that hasn’t even been named.
AFAIK, there’s nothing stopping any company from scraping Lemmy either. The whole point pf reddit limiting API usage was so they could make money like this.
Outside of morals, there is nothing to stop anybody from training on data from Lemmy just like there’s nothing stopping me from using Wikipedia. Most conferences nowadays require a paragraph on ethics in the submission, but I and many of my colleagues would have no qualms saying we scraped our data from open source internet forums and blogs.
All I see is cherry picking random dumb comment thread and trying to spin it as if it defines the whole use base / experience and thinking Lemmy is used by the most sophisticated intellectuals.
This just became my new favorite saying.
found the contrarian in the comments who thinks he’s NOT Brian griffin lol
I think the fewer number of people, compared to reddit, on Lemmy combined with the fact that it’s not nearly as well known, plays a huge advantage to the quality of the comments. Not that there aren’t people like that here either, but I feel like the more popular a platform, is, the more it gets filled, proportionally, with people trying to make witty, shitty, pointless remarks that are often clickkbaity and avoid actual discussion, all in the interest of just getting more imaginary points.
Also the process of “enshitification” (not a term I made up, look it up if you hadn’t heard of it) has already started taking place on reddit due to its popularity.
I’m part of the problem. 85.4% of my comments are shit posts only I think are funny.
lol @ the exact percent
But no, I don’t think shitposts by themselves are actually the problem. I think the problem is when when there’s so many people dedicated to making shitposts that serious communities with serious discussions start getting overwhelmed with shitposts, and when there’s so many people who are only interested in shitposts that they upvote those shitposts to the top, often downvoting anyone who might offer a contrarian non-funny opinion.
or IDK, I’m mostly speculating based on personal experience.
I think the problem is that reddit is suffering the same fate as Facebook. It’s no longer a niche Internet community, it’s been overrun by people who think it’s hip and in. It’s been taken over by people who speak some of the language, but don’t get the culture. No one knows when the narwhal baconed anymore. Lemmy is exhibiting the earlier stages of reddit. Small groups that are growing, plus a looooot of star trek fans sprinkled throughout.
No one knows when the narwhal baconed anymore
I just gagged. I get that it’s a big cultural touchstone of old reddit but I’m sorry, if a community could ever think that was
midnightsomething anyone could say out in the real world to try and find other members without sounding like they’d been dropped on the head as a child, then there’s serious arguments that it was already past the point of no return.No worries. I’ll just be over here with the real cool kids from old 4chan. Hiding our power levels, laughing at m00t wanting to be the little girl, and calling everyone [blank]f#gs. That was totally more respectable behavior by a community of well adjusted individuals.
Hell, even the whole 4chan v Reddit “rivalry” sort of shit is ancient history now.
No psuedonymous or anonymous public discussion space needs some specific “calling card” meme. Just let it be what it is.
Anyway, I believe what you’re describing was coined as “eternal summer” many many years ago.
Back in the earlier years of 4chan, in the summer time the site used to get flooded with a bunch of obviously new users who clearly had no familiarity with the how the existing community worked, in amounts that would often drown out discussions that would have thrived without the newcomers.
You could often trace significant downward trends in “quality” of a community to those mass influxes of new users every summer, usually assumed to be underaged children having nothing better to do with summer break.
At the time, 4chan was still insular enough (not the least due to the sheer vileness of the most popular boards) that any new users who stuck around after the summer would normally adapt to fit with the existing community when the rest of the new users from the summer left.
Eventually though, 4chan got large enough to start getting in the news more and more. Anonymous hackers were doing more shit drawing attention too. They took on fucking scientology. At some point, there was enough of a constant influx of new users who were either unable or unwilling to adapt to the existing community that the existing community started dissolving rapidly.
At that point, “summer” never ends. If you try to enforce previous “standards” then you’re fighting a neverending battle against hordes of people coming into what used to be “your space” where you knew how things worked, insisting that things work differently now (whether by repeated action or explicit statements). They’re coming in such numbers that you can’t out talk them. You can’t out pace their posting. You can’t “educate” them. Slowly everything just oozes into the same easily digestable sludge catering to the lowest common denominator of the constant influx of new users, who don’t give a singular shit about what worked to keep the space alive in the first place.
Welcome to Eternal Summer. Cut your addiction to the space, adapt to the new normal, or suffer forever. Makes for a lot of really really salty maladjusted shut-ins, and the same sort of exclusionary behavior that a lot of nerds had when shit like Halo 2 started making gaming more mainstream or Critical Role helped make D&D more popular.
There’s a lot to be gained from new blood in a previously insular community, but it often comes with a loss of identity. For 4chan, that wasn’t a huge loss, though I’d argue that the racism at least seemed more ironic in ancient times, to a stupid teenage me. Eventually, every community has a tipping point where “the old guard” can’t hold back the tide, and without sissyphean efforts what made the original community special will probably be lost. For better or worse.
Best not to get too attached to any emphemeral space or community, and learn to find new ones as you go along your life.
Anyway, I believe what you’re describing was coined as “eternal summer” many many years ago.
The same phenomenon was coined on Usenet many years before 4chan.
Wake me up, when September ends
I think you’re absolutely right about the eternal summer. A new demographic of users takes over. The tourists move in. The shame of it is that as noted, it’s an inevitability for any social media, it’s just a matter of time.
it’s cringe but equaly cringy is posting it to here and the comments pretending you couldn’t find a dozen similar examples on lemmy lol, like the demographic is not that different.
heaven forbid some cringey individuals spread some positive energy online! they should be more toxic and debate lord-ey with every comment.
reddit always had an incredible individuality, not-like-other-girls complex and it’s truly wonderful to see that that mindset has immediately migrated here. never change, reddit circlejerk brainrot, my love. 😍
At least there is something to read, unlike on lemmy, where the most liked posts are bitching about reddit.
It’s actually kind of crazy how like… stupid Reddit got over the past 2 years.
Like don’t get me wrong Lemmy isn’t exactly an intellectual powerhouse either, but especially on the front page of Reddit it truly feels like you’ve gathered a few thousand of the dumbest people ever and made them high five. Browsing the science and dataisbeautiful subs is insane
I have gone back a while ago. Some subs are bad but most I frequent are the same as before. I now use lemmy on my phone and reddit on the PC. At least on reddit the Linux cult doesnt try to convert you everytime you say the word windows.
Have you heard of our lord and saviour Linus? You have to let Linux into your heart my child.
Linus Sebastian rules
Lol, pity he dislikes Linux.
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I don’t know if you’re trying to imply that Microsoft does for Windows, but I seriously doubt he gets sponsored by Windows
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I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux,” and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
New copypasta just dropped
Did he ever release his own findings on how bad his company harassed that girl?
I don’t think he rules or its even a nice human being
They hired a 3rd party investigator for that. Nothing has been release and most likely won’t be.
We’re no better here. Lemmy has its own brand of cringe.
Switch to linux
Btw I use Arch
It’s not about cringe imo, more the point is that the comments don’t look real at all - it’s all bots
Love. This. Post.
I approve! Perfectly stated.
I was going to post the same thing.
What I find weird, is why people would comment that kind of worthless stuff when they could just give an upvote. It doesn’t add anything to the discussion. It is just worthless fluff.
I guess lots of people just like to talk.
And writing responses like that comes close to that. I understand it, kinda, because I use to do the same. When somebody writes me some message or sth, I often reply with a short (but still unnecessarily long) text. I even do this when I wasn’t directly talked to. So that’s a habit.
But did you make comments like that in public discussions?
Reddit is bloodthirsty and quite often rejects reason, especially if you’re in subs like justiceporn or similar. People DGAF if the solution to a problem was “just walk away” that was available for the entirety of the lead-up to an incident, they just want to see massive retaliation for a slight, perceived or real. FAFO. can’t fix stupid. Etc.
Bunch of angry drunks looking for a fight for any reason.
That, and Reddit is all about reactions and retreads in all the popular subs, just like TikTok and the like.
The conversations happen in the small subs. Sometimes.
I’ve lost faith that I’m even having conversations on there at all. Such a big motivation to have natural language bots building up credible history and posting nonsensical but vaguely plausible sounding replies that offer zero depth.
Posting nonsensical but vaguely plausible sounding replies that offer zero depth.
Are you describing how Reddit was, or is going to be?
How it is. It’s not unusual to come across replies that on the surface are passable but are ever so slightly…off. And the comment history is the same. People who make it their business to undercover bot networks regularly find groups of accounts that post automated chat-gpt type responses and seem to act in unison. Their methods vary but sometimes they all post the same low effort zero depth reaction comments as a strategy to build up karma without being spotted. The fact the platform is structured for popularity and engagement in such a way that this is worth doing (and polluting any regular discussion in the process) is entirely what’s wrong with Reddit.
Type of thing that would be found. This particular investigation sub now private but there are others
Oh God
Were we that cringy?
One time I went to a local Reddit meet up. Yep, it was all that cringy
a local reddit meet up? i have never heard of something like that. do reddit users go outside?!?!?
edit: “users” is plural. i, for some reason, used does instead of do.
God it was so awkward, it must have been like 2011 because I was freshly 21. And it was at this local bar. And everybody greeted eachother by " the narwhal bacon’s at midnight" and it was just fucking weird. For a while our local subreddit was running a monthly one and then it just kind of stopped.
To be fair I’m sure everyone was pretty cringeworthy at that age with or without reddit. Myself included
I bet they are all bots
Love. This. Comment.
I bet they are all bots.
I bet they are all bots.
This needs a mug
I’m using this in my daily life now
Only the best, the finest human-generated datasets. For the discerning AI trainer.
Welcome to Burger King! Can I take your order?
ohgodherewego.jpg
Can I get a large-
Hell yeah!
-a large Whopper meal with-
Love. This. Order.
-with a side of barbecue sa-
this needs to be on a mug!
Heavy internal sigh
Sauce.
I approve, perfectly stated. That’ll be $98.42, NTA, please pull around to the window to pay and have a yeet day!
Preach 👏 it 👏 louder 👏
(But like, for real, though.) I certainly don’t feel bad for Reddit when the CEO says he intends to use that forum’s users to train AIs, and then every comment turns into some “please upvote me” catchphrasey nonsense. Hopefully, whoever buys training data from them receives nothing of value.
