• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    I don’t really care. Abusing (using) animals for food and work is cruel anyway, if me not doing that because I think it’s wrong is good for the environment, great! If it’s not, fine, but it’s not why I do it.

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      7 months ago

      That’s the thing. Ethics and impact on the environment can be two different things. If you decide to go that way, you’re fine. Do it. However we need animals for stated reasons. We have to eat less meat/generally consume less animal products.

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        7 months ago

        We also need to stop overproducing everything. America makes far too much corn, because/and the industry is heavily subsidized.

        The amount of food waste in North America is astounding. Completely unnecessary.

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          7 months ago

          We do that so you can go to the store and actually find food. It’s so we don’t have another famine…has nothing to do with anything else you’re trying to point out.

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              7 months ago

              Yea totally, no clue what I’m talking about at all, just own a farm and understand our food economy…but nope no clue.

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                7 months ago

                So you’re telling me the government uses tax payer money to prop up your farm so that… we can actually find the food at the grocery stores?

                And then with all that extra corn that you’re producing they have to find a myriad of other uses (like the syrup that making the entire country obese, for one)?

                So clearly you’re way more enlightened on the subject since you own a farm, so why don’t you tell the class why subsidizing an unnecessarily oversized industry is a good thing.

                Don’t shy away from this. You’re the expert.

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                  7 months ago

                  Lol I don’t own an ag farm, but I’m in the farming community, and the gov. Props up farms so people like you don’t starve to death when we have a bad grow year or droughts…or any other reasons to keep the people who feed you from saying fuck this I quit.

                  Yes because all farms grow is corn and create sugar drinks…also we have an issue with obesity for a ton of different reasons and it’s not because of “big corn”.

                  Already did, you just don’t seem to understand that without keeping farmers afloat, the majority of them will fail and then you get to go outside and eat some grass and acorns…which the more likely thing to happen is you starve to death because you think food magically appears in the store two minutes from you.

                  Can it be improved? Sure, but acting like your food you eat is somehow going to magically be cheaper and more plentiful without keeping farmers from failing after a bad year is hilarious.

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                    7 months ago

                    None of that changes the over abundance of the stuff I am specifically talking about. The amount of land and resources put into that industry are unnecessary. I understand what crop insurance is, and I am not trying to belittle farmers.