• dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
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    Ghost in the Shell was an unnecessary remake of a fantastic original animation that was improved by the series that followed it. There was never a need for a live action version.

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    Basically that’s what they did with Ocean’s 11. The original Frank Sinatra version was shit. But it was a good idea, a crew of super cool dudes get together to rob a casino.

    They remade it and it was very successful.

    The Thing has a similar origin.

    But it’s rare things like that happen because Hollywood execs usually need an existing property with good numbers to greenlight a movie.

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      For a second I thought you were trying to say that The Thing (2011) is a better remake of The Thing (1982), but then I remembered that 1951 version exists.

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    Word War Z.

    Have it actually be a mocumentary with interviews. Once people start talking switch to the scene. It is a collection of short stories. Would be fun.

    Or make it a mini series.

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      Personally I thought the book was good, but I don’t think an adaptation to a movie format is the right move. Maybe a mini series would be best.

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      Yeah I’ve never read the book but I’ve heard the movie was literally just a generic zombie movie that had nothing to do with the book.

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            Didn’t read the books and can’t remember much of the movie but one thing.

            The way the zombies moved as a fluid.

            That was the best depiction of horde behavior I have seen. The thought that they climb over obstacles by climbing over each other was brilliant and scary.

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    Virtually every single bad adaptation can be directly traced back to studio interference.

    Movies like LoTR only happened because the studios thought it would be a colossal flop, and so left the directors and producers alone.

    If you want great movies, the studios need to leave the producers and directors the hell alone.

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      Counterpoint: Game of Thrones. The studio would have been happy to give them a few more seasons to develop a better ending. It’s the creators who gave up and phoned in the ending we got.

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      Writing is the only thing that matters. I point to “Everything Everywhere All at Once” and “Amsterdam”. The latter of which had 4x the budget.

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          In all of the ways, mostly. But most particularly in that it’s neither authentic or enjoyable. It’s just soulless cgi trash.

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            I beg to differ. After watching it again recently they used plenty of practical effects mixed with cgi. Hell it is a light year better than any recent Marvel or DC movies even. Few notes is the changes to the story. Which has been done each version away from the manga. The chief is amazing speaking only Japanese and fully rocking that roll. I hear many complain about the movie yet cannot sight actual examples that ruin the experience other than it is not like the anime. But if you have been following it like me since the original manga you know it is always been changed a little. But who would just want to keep watching the same thing over and over again in a different form.

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              Not interested in arguing with you. The box office, reviews, and general fan opinion disagree with you. It’s perfectly okay to like something most others don’t.

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                It’s called debating not arguing. If you cannot back up your own personal statement then I suggest your go back to Reddit. Or at least try trolling better.

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      I didn’t mind the dark tower movie before since I knew nothing about the book series. I’m on Wizard and Glass now though and in hindsight… That movie was absolute trash and pretty offensive to the fanbase.

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    And give it time! I don’t want a do-over of a failed movie just a couple years later. The Ghost in the Shell movie was a disappointment, but don’t just keep plugging away at it until something works.

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      But the original Ghost in the Shell is perfect! I just rewatched it this weekend and it still looks amazing! Why remake that?

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        I think they’re talking about the live action version (2017) version. But I agree the 1995 Ghost in the Shell animated movie is a fantastic movie. Funny thing is in 2008 they did Ghost in the shell 2.0 which add some cg to the original, it’s been a while since I’ve watched it, so I don’t know if they reuse the same animation from the 95 version or animated new stuff I really don’t remember to be honest. But ya oh 1995 animated Ghost in the Shell is amazing I was actually planning on rewatching it this week. (I did rewatch it and it’s exactly as good as I remember it.)

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    I’d go one further. Do longer run remakes for good source material that ended up with a bad movie.

    Golden Compass Movie = bad

    His Dark Materials limited series = fantastic

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      Do longer run remakes for good source material

      In that vein, I would go even farther. Cinema is a defunct, dinosaur medium, with built-in limitations. Anything worth making at all is worth making into a high-quality, high-production-value series.

      You know what’s hilarious about that, though? The first people who would start shrieking that I’m going too far…you know who those people are? Film directors and obsessive fans of film directors. And yet, if I’m not VASTLY mistaken, directors always want to make a cut of every movie that’s, like, 50 hours long.

      Motherfucker, that’s a series. Make a series. This is the 21st Century. We all have perfectly good screens in our houses. Let go of your popcorn fixation and just do everything as a series. ESPECIALLY if you’re adapting a comic book series or a novel, or series of novels.

      If we just assume, from the get-go, that everything will be a “TV” series (even the word “television” is a stupid dinosaur word, but I’ll use it for convenience), we can also finally convince studios that they should MIX THE FUCKING AUDIO FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR IN THEIR HOUSES, WITH 2-CHANNEL SPEAKER SYSTEMS, RATHER THAN 872 CHANNEL THEATER SETUPS.

      I’m fucking tired of having to turn on closed-captioning for every goddamn thing I watch.

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    I don’t care what anyone says, the worldbuilding that was done for the 1990s Super Mario Bros. movie was awesome and if the movie had lived up to it, it would have been great.

    Remember that when the movie was made, Mario was a plumber that jumped on mushrooms and turtles to save a princess and he had a brother named Luigi that did the same thing. That was pretty much the entire storyline they had to work with.

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      Video game movies in the 90s were always shit.

      We had studios seeing green with franchises that had significant canon (remember, SMB, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat all had significant backstory in their manuals, but writers/directors who knew nothing of them except that it was something their kids/nephews were obsessed with.

      MK was the only one to actually use a good portion of that canon, and it was by far the best of the three. Though the soundtrack did a lot of work for it too.

      Super Mario Brothers would’ve been a fun movie if they didn’t try to tie it in with the game. It wasn’t canonical at all, and 8-year-old JasonDJ was quick to realize it.

      I’m more optimistic of video game movies now, now that the Gen X and Millenials that were molded by video games are in the directors chairs, and these are now major franchises with significant investment.

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        Super Mario Brothers would’ve been a fun movie if they didn’t try to tie it in with the game.

        That is very likely, although I still think it would have had big problems. John Leguizamo isn’t exactly a terrific actor. Funny guy, not a great actor.

        But the worldbuilding they put into it was pretty damn impressive and they had some great ideas. The whole parallel world where dinosaurs didn’t die out but evolved into what look like humans but aren’t quite idea was pretty cool. Or at least I thought so.

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          John Leguizamo isn’t exactly a terrific actor

          Luigi isn’t exactly a deep charter to act out. You don’t need a Shakespearian actor for a character whose main line is “whaaaaaaaa!”