I run proprietary Nvidia drivers as well and Wayland runs so much better than Xorg now that I’m permanently coming over to Wayland. I’m extremely happy rn with Wayland
Not gonna lie, I specifically bought an AMD GPU laptop so I could run a Wayland WM. After trying and failing with my old nvidia optane razor laptop I gave up on Nvidia. I still use it on my desktop tho. It’s so much smoother than X-11.
It should be noted that for some reason, people in Linux communities seem to never watch hardware accelerated video content, because AMD 6000 and 7000 have HUGE issues regarding video decoding on Linux, Im talking full system crash or full system freezes after 30 minutes of watching videos on youtube (and thats without mentionning the video freezing for a few seconds with the audio still going, and then catching up, and refreezing a few seconds later). It caused me to install Chrome which does not have hardware acceleration yet to watch youtube if I wanted to have an uptime of more than 1.5 days.
These issues have only been reported on AMD’s iGPUs though, so I think dedicated graphics cards should be fine. But anyways, for this reason alone, I would just recommend Intel chips for most users, especially now with the new Intel Gen 1 Ultra or whatever its called, the GPU is basically on-par with AMD and the CPU is very close as well.
Chromium recently got support for hardware acceleration. Link
Hm weird. Running 6000 series igpu with hw decoding on, no issues.
On desktop 7000 series dGpu, also no issues.
There were some Frame drops in the past, but current kernel + Mesa has no issues for me.
Wasn’t that the guy from Stone Temple Pilots?
I had nothing but issues running Wayland with Nvidia. How strange.
That’s because the drivers are bullshit but not the problem in general. They work well for some very specific cards, not at all for other and in general it’s just random hit or miss.
And then, to make it more fun, not all wayland compositors are born equal either.
Any recommendations? Or knowledge of which cards work best with it? I’m thinking on trying it out again, never tried it on my 3070
Not to be flippant about it, but I just recommend trying it and seeing how it works for you. You can have both Xorg and Wayland installed, you just change out which one you’re using at the login window
Thanks! I may be capable but not necessarily knowledgeable, I had no idea that was an option lol
I use i3 on a thinkpad p50 with hybrid graphics (Intel + nvidia). Works sort of stable if I force the use of the dedicated card, but I’m getting like 1,5h of battery.
Video acceleration seems to work most of the times, but for a few weeks I have problems with picom freezing my screen, capping fps in games and video. Any ideas? It took me hours to have it running sort of smooth, so I’m hesitant to try out sway and ruin my daily setup
Why are you forcing i3 to use the dedicated GPU?
AFAIK sway doesn’t work with proprietary Nvidia drivers
I’d love to run hybrid graphics with free drivers, don’t get me wrong.
I also love running steam games and video acceleration and with my previous setup it was mostly unstable. My current setup just works, with minor effects like reduced battery times and picom bugs.
I’m just trying to learn the reasoning behind your decision. I ran i3 on multiple devices, the newest one being a t480, and never had any issues with the integrated graphics.
Are you also forcing picom to use the dedicated GPU?
Seems like a waste, unless you’re playing one of those games that runs better on the integrated than on the dedicated.
My setup is 4k on two displays. The Intel GPU can’t handle them on 60Hz I guess. There is a thinkpad dock involved as well, so I think I’m stuck with HDMI and the dedicated gpu. I tried a lot of things :/
My setup is 4k on two displays
on a 9 year old laptop, and you even game on it, God damn dude!
I3 shouldn’t really be impacted AFAIK, but I’d drop picom completely just to save some cycles. It’s not like you have resources to spare on aesthetics.
I like transparent terminals and vsync. That’s my only reason for picom
I need nightlight mode so x11 until then
The new version of plasma coming out on the 28th has this fixed on wayland. We’re currently on rc2, but fill release will be soon. It may be a bit before your distro has it available however so you’ll have to use a PPA on debian/ubuntu/etc., install manually once it’s available, or compile from source if you’de like it now
Have fun with your 10% FPS drop, undocumented glitches, and zero support for 45 degree tilted monitors lol
45 degree tilted monitors lol
WTH? That’s a “thing” who or why would you even do that?
Because why not lmao
Bought a new AMD GPU to run Wayland. Here’s to NVIDIA getting their shit together or, more likely, going bankrupt.
That’s hilarious. 😄 Linux users dropping Nvidia en-masse would be like a half a percent blip on their desktop market share. Probably couldn’t even tell if it’s a rounding error.
This is a company that’s speculated to drop the desktop consumer market altogether at some point. They make so much money from other industries it’s obscene. I suspect they only keep the gaming and desktop crowd around for the drama and the publicity. They don’t really give a shit anymore.
Which would be sad in a way because Linux gaming was built on Nvidia. For the longest time it was the one manufacturer you could count on to be there and deliver decent, accelerated Linux drivers consistently.
Well to be fair, most AI workloads are on Linux and that’s a huge fraction of their sales. But desktop Linux, yeah, not going to notice at all.
How are the games, and especially Electron apps? Gotta know this.
If you can enable wayland / ozone electron apps do fine otherwise still flickery
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I’ve been using NVIDIA under Wayland for a few months now and it’s been… alright? No major issues on v535 (however v545 is buggy as hell for me, Minecraft would show a black screen whenever too many pixels were updated – needless to say, I downgraded).
However, I’d still love to swap to an AMD GPU because of better Linux support, maybe keep my current GPU for passthrough.
545 had a regression with VRR causing black screens apparently. 550 beta supposedly fixes it
Tried 550, didn’t fix anything. The game window still blinks black.
Yeah Wayland rules- problem for me is I’m hopelessly addicted to Synergy for mouse and keyboard sharing, and it doesn’t work on Wayland yet>< I’m 100% team red and my fancy new display won’t do 4k@144hz on X11 so that’s frustrating. 144 and no Synergy or 1440p 144hz and Synergy
Input Leap is a Synergy fork with mostly working compatibility for Gnome Wayland, and Waynergy works well as a client on sway (and possibly kde?)
Try rkvm. It even works outside of X/Wayland. The only downside is the lack of copy/paste which I’m still trying to find a solution to.
Quite interesting- found it on github, so switching appears to be keybound with rkvm, huh?
Yep, I use the key bind, Ctrl+Alt+s, to switch and I can use my mouse and keyboard on the other computer.
Alot less convenient than synergy but do-able. I may take the time to try to understand it in the future, appreciente the info.
I tweeted @synergy and they say a wayland-compatible version is due later this year, so there’s a good chance I’ll just wait and be lazy.
Does anyone know a good screenshot tool for wayland?
Flameshot should work.
I use Spectacle by KDE. Comes installed on Plasma and it’s always done a good job me.
I just been using gnomes built in screenshot tool
I’m just salty that I have bugs and other folk don’t. I’ll regret my username choice in the future for sure but for now, I’m just going to stubbornly stick by it until NVIDIA makes better drivers
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They username is WaylandHater26. that is their display name
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