I had an apartment and then a new neighbor moved in next door. She put her dog in a cage that was in her bedroom closet. That bedroom closet was on the wall opposite my headboard side of my bed. Of course, when she went to work that dog would bark all day. I attempted to complain to the apartment manager but guess what happened? Nothing happened because that apartment manager also had a dog that she put in a cage and kept in her apartment while she was away.

In a different apartment I was on the ground floor. There was a lady above me who would let her dog do its business on her concrete patio which was above mine and then she would sweep it over the edge until my patio below looked like a minefield of dog turds.

Dogs need yards and should not be locked up in a cage or in an apartment nor should their barking invade the space of others.

If you own a dog, live in an apartment, and the noise from that dog’s barking is inside the apartments of your neighbors then you are a shitty inconsiderate person!

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      If you have to put a dog in a cage all day, you don’t deserve a dog

      FTFY

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      I recently learned that it’s an actual American practice to do that and it’s seen as good for the dog.

      That shit is illegal here lol. It’d be considered animal abuse

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        Another Finn here.

        Crate-training itself is not illegal in Finland. There are, however, requirements for crate size and limits on how long a dog can be kept in a crate.

        My one-year-old pup is crate trained and had enforced crated naps as a puppy. He is a very active breed that tends to have trouble managing their own excitement level, especially when young. These days the crate sits open and the pup elects to sleep in it most nights, and sometimes during the day if he wants to be left alone.

        In addition, he has a collision-tested car crate that keeps him safe while traveling. He treats it like his puppy crate and just snoozes through most drives.

        I don’t see an issue with crate training if it is done with the dog’s needs in mind. Crate is not a convenient storage to keep your pet in, and a dog should not be left crated for an entire work day. They need space and enrichment in their days to be happy and healthy.

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          But it’s only for transporting, sickness or “other acceptable temprorary reasons demands it”.

          vain, jos eläimen kuljettaminen, sairaus tai muu tilapäinen ja hyväksyttävä syy sitä vaatii.

          Some are just using it for convenience when they are worried their stuff gets chewed or because it makes their life easier. It’s not exactly the situation demanding it. Puppies can be annoying because they “misbehave” and instead of responsible training, some just yeet them into the cage and lock the door, hoping to deal with it later (if at all). Lazy and not responsible pet ownership.

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          No. Fuck you if you think that is even remotely accetable. Caging your dog like that is a fucking animal abuse. End of story. The fact that people in usa thinks it’s okay just mean that americans are really fucked and detached from the reality. This is by far not the only thing americans do to their pets that is absolutely illegal elsewhere in thr world

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          First line is already lol.

          Crate training isn’t “imprisoning” your dog. It gives them their own space and can calm anxiety.

          This is some 1984 shit. The whole thing is that you’re locking them in there. You can give them their own space without the imprisoning but for some, this seems unthinkable for whatever reason.

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            I have skimmed through the page and haven’t found anything about locking the dog inside. It’s an ok practice to let the cage sit open somewhere in your apartment to be a private place for a pet, and the article ey linked seem to talk about that rather than about how to make your dog love prison time

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              I have no doubt they’d want to avoid saying that. Same way as the chosen terminology is “crate” instead of cage. But every cage/crate they recommend has a lockable door and article talks about the importance of letting your dog out of the cage every once in a while. Sure does seem sketchy

              For the record, if the “crate” is just a doggy bed with a roof and no door or anything, there’s no issue. It’s a nice cozy place for the dog. If it has a lockable door and you’re locking them in there as part of your “training”, that’s messed up. Some seem to use the same term for both.

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                Lockable door should be used when you need to transport a pet, whether it’s a dog or a cat they should be okay with a transportation cage and need training for that.

                Well, at least that’s what I know from experience, can’t be sure about the article authors

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                  Transporting is obviously a different matter. But reading the comments here and reading the article, it does seem to imply actually locking the cage in your own home. Which is nuts.

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                My dog goes in a cage with a lockable door for ten hours every day.

                It’s only about 450 sq ft and he seems fine

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            You really ought to read it more closely. Technically they don’t say those specific words, but …,