Just over three years since Oregon voters passed Ballot Measure 110, elected officials want to repeal key elements, blaming the law for open drug use and soaring overdoses. But it’s their own hands-off approach that isn’t working, advocates say.
I think you’re misconstruing what I’m trying to say, however I think at this point the conversation isn’t getting anywhere.
If you don’t want to take a look at any of the links ive given or provide decent studies to prove your point then I don’t think there’s a conversation to be had here. You clearly have your own biases that you don’t want to address. Agree to disagree.
I think you’re misconstruing what I’m trying to say, however I think at this point the conversation isn’t getting anywhere.
I’m not misconstruing what you’re trying to say and I don’t appreciate the insuation that I am acting in bad-faith (by misconstruing something). If the conversation at this point isn’t getting anywhere, that’s a question you’ve got to first ask yourself, and secondly ask me if there’s anything I can clarify.
Now, can we get back to the topic of decriminalizing / legalizing drugs? I don’t know why you keep talking about homelessness, unless you have nothing to say regarding the decriminalization of drugs. Again, you will need to prove that there’s a causal relationship between the two - something you won’t be able to do, because one doesn’t exist.
If you don’t want to take a look at any of the links ive given or provide decent studies to prove your point then I don’t think there’s a conversation to be had here. You clearly have your own biases that you don’t want to address. Agree to disagree.
The links you have provided are off-topic and while they may back up your own thoughts, that’s fine because your thoughts on this topic are wrong. Facts don’t care about your feelings, and right now, you got no facts to prove your case.
Your first link is a biased resource from a drug rehabilitation facility. They are going to be pro-rehabilitation. This is akin to sending me a brochure and saying that it contains facts. If these are true facts, you wouldn’t need to resort to a link from americanaddictioncenters.org. Just like how you would be right to not view a link that I sent from a drug company about drug facts, or a study funded primarily by drug companies. It’s not that I’m not open to new ideas or challenging my ideas, I truly am and it’s very easy to change my mind on any given topic. But you must come correct with a decent resource.
Your second link was from a reputable source but it was based on a survey on the opinions of people who’s only experience is living within proximity to homelessness. Can you see how that’s a problem just by itself? I mean, I’m assuming that propublican isn’t burying the lede here and would instead come right out and say “x causes y” if they knew it. But that’s not the scope of this study (as we can tell from the title alone). Who cares what these people think when it comes to the subject of if we should decriminalize drugs? They weren’t asked that, they were asked about their feelings about living next to users who were irresponsible with their parapenalia. It’s off topic to this discussion at best and intentional bad-faith arguing on your part at worst. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt here, though. I assume you are acting in good faith.
It’s also telling if you can only just send the same 2 links back at me, after I’ve told you that they are off-topic. There is so much more data out there. I’m at work right now so I’m not spending a lot of time to respond. I’m not not sending you links to support my argument because they don’t exist. If that’s what you truly want, give me some time and I’ll give you a reading list.
This all comes down to you and your motivations. Want to understand more about how to actually help these people while avoiding paying high taxes on a program which doesn’t work? Let’s keep talking. If on the other hand you only want to try to disprove what I’m saying, well… let’s keep talking but you need to give me some better sources - ones which are at least relevant to what we are discussing.
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I think you’re misconstruing what I’m trying to say, however I think at this point the conversation isn’t getting anywhere.
If you don’t want to take a look at any of the links ive given or provide decent studies to prove your point then I don’t think there’s a conversation to be had here. You clearly have your own biases that you don’t want to address. Agree to disagree.
Ps: Here’s my first link if you change your mind. https://americanaddictioncenters.org/rehab-guide/homeless
I’m not misconstruing what you’re trying to say and I don’t appreciate the insuation that I am acting in bad-faith (by misconstruing something). If the conversation at this point isn’t getting anywhere, that’s a question you’ve got to first ask yourself, and secondly ask me if there’s anything I can clarify.
Now, can we get back to the topic of decriminalizing / legalizing drugs? I don’t know why you keep talking about homelessness, unless you have nothing to say regarding the decriminalization of drugs. Again, you will need to prove that there’s a causal relationship between the two - something you won’t be able to do, because one doesn’t exist.
The links you have provided are off-topic and while they may back up your own thoughts, that’s fine because your thoughts on this topic are wrong. Facts don’t care about your feelings, and right now, you got no facts to prove your case.
Your first link is a biased resource from a drug rehabilitation facility. They are going to be pro-rehabilitation. This is akin to sending me a brochure and saying that it contains facts. If these are true facts, you wouldn’t need to resort to a link from americanaddictioncenters.org. Just like how you would be right to not view a link that I sent from a drug company about drug facts, or a study funded primarily by drug companies. It’s not that I’m not open to new ideas or challenging my ideas, I truly am and it’s very easy to change my mind on any given topic. But you must come correct with a decent resource.
Your second link was from a reputable source but it was based on a survey on the opinions of people who’s only experience is living within proximity to homelessness. Can you see how that’s a problem just by itself? I mean, I’m assuming that propublican isn’t burying the lede here and would instead come right out and say “x causes y” if they knew it. But that’s not the scope of this study (as we can tell from the title alone). Who cares what these people think when it comes to the subject of if we should decriminalize drugs? They weren’t asked that, they were asked about their feelings about living next to users who were irresponsible with their parapenalia. It’s off topic to this discussion at best and intentional bad-faith arguing on your part at worst. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt here, though. I assume you are acting in good faith.
It’s also telling if you can only just send the same 2 links back at me, after I’ve told you that they are off-topic. There is so much more data out there. I’m at work right now so I’m not spending a lot of time to respond. I’m not not sending you links to support my argument because they don’t exist. If that’s what you truly want, give me some time and I’ll give you a reading list.
This all comes down to you and your motivations. Want to understand more about how to actually help these people while avoiding paying high taxes on a program which doesn’t work? Let’s keep talking. If on the other hand you only want to try to disprove what I’m saying, well… let’s keep talking but you need to give me some better sources - ones which are at least relevant to what we are discussing.