Yeah choose one,
- 12 websites written mostly by templates that are keyword-stuffed to sound like your question, and one might contain an answer in the 8th paragraph.
- A response from a bot that’s unreliable, but extremely specific to your query.
I have noticed that the quality of results on Google and DDG and others have been declining steadily over the last few years, and I think this is mostly a result of click farms generally getting better at gaming the system. Genuinely quality content is just being drowned out by crap.
ChatGPT doesn’t really address this. I also don’t see ChatGPT as a genuine replacement yet because 1) hallucination is still too big of a problem and 2) the value add of using natural language for queries doesn’t seem all that beneficial to me. Sorta like, how IF you are already used to a terminal, it will be faster or just as fast as a GUI for many things.
The only real value I have seen from ChatGPT, is for complex boilerplate generation that is very easy to verify. ChatGPT is fantastic for generating regex, for example. Or poems, if you prefer.
Natural language kind of stuff can be helpful if you don’t know the relvent terms for something though I haven’t had too much luck most of the time with ChatGPT on that kind of stuff. Worse is that ChatGPT is likely to lead to even more SEO spam :(
I’ve used ChatGPT for things like generating c linker scripts or writing a bochs configuration file. It would have taken me 30 minutes to research how to make a bochs config file but since I got ChatGPT to shit out something wrong but close to correct, I only had to fill in the incorrect stuff based on common sense and google a few things.
I only use DDG to search for answers on the web.
At the moment, CGPT is mostly used for building me small scripts. i’m not a great programmer, but i do understand bash script most of the time. so often if i need something done i’ll just ask CGPT to build me something and i think it only made a mistake once.
Not really (I wasn’t using Google directly anyway), I think it fills a slightly different niche than search engines.
It’s good as a fuzzy search for the sum of public knowledge, since it can understand quite complex queries and point you in the right direction, then you can go to regular search engines to find more specific stuff.
Bing was fun to exploit, but I don’t really see why it’s useful, it tends to always look up information which means it provides less of its own knowledge, I can do the searches myself better than an LM. Maybe it can provide more concise answers than all the SEO crap everywhere, but that can be avoided by searching on specific websites like reddit.
They aren’t designed to be right, they’re designed to look like they’re right
No, but recently i’ve stopped using Google as well. Currently I mostly use Ecosia, I think their company philosophy is pretty cool and I like the results so far. I don’t think that ChatGPT works as a substitute for a search engine for my uses at least, as many of my searches require me to check multiple links and I don’t always type in the full natural language sentences necessary for ChatGPT.
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Yeah, pretty much (GPT-4’s a big upgrade over the default 3.5).
That said, OpenAssistant is already really impressive for a project with such limited resources. Would love to see open-source overtake OpenAI quickly (which IMO isn’t out of the question, considering how quickly Stable Diffusion developed)
I wouldn’t personally use chatGPT ,or any language model for that matter, if factual information is the goal.
DDG has been my go-to recently, but mostly because I’m jaded with current year data harvesting and such. The internet feels like such a hassle these days .-.
@natebluehooves @dl007, to find what I search I use mostly these search engines with AI without BigBrother company spyware, is in these where AI is usefull because “de-hazzle” the internet with direct answers based on reliable resources, ChatGPT can’t do this, it has a knowledge base from 2021 and can’t give reliable and up-to-date answers because of this.
https://andisearch.com (the most private search engine ever)
https://www.perplexity.ai
https://you.com (free account to use it)perplexity is the best for code, it still hallucinates but way less than chatgpt.
@Icarus, special for codes is Phind, a AI search engine for devs
None of the search engines is perfect, all of them have pros and flaws, because of this, if you need a deeper research it is inevitable to have several on hand.
I still use google. If I have a programming related query I use it normally. Otherwise I search for example “best cheap iems reddit” because Google has cannibalised itself by the means of SEO.
Anyone else using Kagi.com for search? I’m using it as a paid user and it’s fantastic, no ads and no tracking and results are great. I use ChatGPT for “ideas” and Kagi for specifics.
How come you feel the need to pay for your search engine? What type of searches do you do?
Less Google = better. The results are also better, and looking for stuff is a good part of my programming job.
I don’t use Google very often anymore, more of a DuckDuckGo fan. However using ChatGPT has become my goto for quick howto stuff. A lot of web searches will load clickbait articles or dead end forums. Using GPT I often get a strait forward guide built for exactly what I need.
it’s amazing how much the web is full of clickbait and fake sites trying to just capture search result traffic. ironically, ChatGPT seems to make it even easier to make sites like that. 😭
Not using Google search for many years. Never really used Bing. I use a mix of search engines for various purposes. Startpage is a proxy of Google minus sponsored ads and relatively intrusive spying. Searx is a metasearch for multiple engines. Reddit is an information goldmine if you know where to look. Yandex and Baidu have a lot of interesting hidden results and are out of Western countries’ jurisdiction which is a huge positive. Then there are darknets with their search pockets and information.
