• rjs001@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    In most of hisotry, a very large amount of the problem s were solved by shooting people. Getting the US out of Vietnam and Laos were caused by shooting people. Dealing with the Nazis were done by shooting people. Getting the British out of Ireland was done by shooting people. And shooting people is still the main solution in the world. The main tool to keep the Zionists from continuing to expand are guns and bombs

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      Probably don’t want to mention Zionists to a concern troll, they’re already looking for excuses to call us Nazis.

      For lurkers: We “tankies” do not support the violence that Israel commits against Palestine, as it is a settler apartheid state similar to South Africa that brutally suppresses the Palestinians. While you might’ve only seen violence from Palestinians in the news, this is only because the news ignores Israel’s violence against them in order to blame the victim.

      Notice that during this paragraph their ethnicity did not play into it. If the situation was reversed and Jews were being systematically destroyed by Arabs, we would be just as opposed to it. “Zionism” in this context refers to the idea that the Jewish people “deserve” to carve out an ethnostate in the middle east, at the expense of the people living there. If you have read this and believe that Jewish people deserve an ethnostate because of the Holocaust, you should ask why that state needs to be in the middle east, at the expense of the non-Jewish people living there, rather than say…in Germany, the nation that actually committed those horrific atrocities.

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        1 year ago

        I think they’ll call us Nazis no matter what. We shouldn’t pretend Zionists are evil just to avoid being called something we will be called regardless

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          Oh, we should never give into “both sides” bullshit or anything, but it is important to stress evil actions not evil as an inherent trait.

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            Zionists are inherently evil. The idea of an ethnic-religious state within a territory that is not theirs is inherently colonial and hence evil. Zionists are evil themselves, not just evil actions

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              But not all Jews are Zionists, though a lot of libs (including the lurkers) might think so. That’s more the point I’m making here, to educate people about Israel, and to do that, you need to make it very clear that hating Israel’s zionist actions isn’t anti-semitism. Or else they will just tune you out and call you nazi.

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                I didn’t say all Jews were. I said all Zionists were evil, nothing about Jewish people. I simply feel they will call us Nazis either way. They don’t care if they have a justification

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                  Oh I know, I think we’re talking past each other a little bit.

                  My goal is to clarify that we are not nazis (even if they calls that regardless) and anyone actually reading what we have to say on the matter will realise that the people accusing us of things we don’t actually believe are just lying about us. It’s not for the “diehard libs” but for those more “on the fence” and willing to listen to us.