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Senator J.D. Vance is openly embracing the idea of a coup in a pathetic bid to become Donald Trump’s vice president.
Senator J.D. Vance has essentially admitted he would have carried out a coup during the 2020 election if he could have, in a bald-faced attempt to be chosen as Donald Trump’s running mate.
The Ohio Republican has been floated alongside Representative Elise Stefanik as a possible Trump vice presidential pick. And in an effort to outdo his reported competition, Vance gave a full-throated defense of autocracy during an interview with ABC on Sunday.
When asked if, had he been vice president in 2020, he would have certified the election results, Vance said he would have done things a little differently.
“If I had been vice president, I would have told the states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia, and so many others, that we needed to have multiple slates of electors, and I think the U.S. Congress should have fought over it from there,” Vance said, referring to the fake pro-Trump electors that some states’ Republicans tried to send to Washington.
“That is the legitimate way to deal with an election that a lot of folks, including me, think had a lot of problems in 2020. I think that’s what we should have done.”
And that isn’t enough to immediately kick him out of office. That’s the truly incredible part.
Sorry, we can’t enforce any insurrection charges. Ohios AG Dave Yost is too busy restarting the death penalty and going after 10 year olds for getting abortions.
Yep, I know. I’m in Indiana. Our AG went after the doctor who gave the 10-year-old kid from Ohio the abortion when it was still legal in Indiana, doxxed the kid, then tried to sue the doctor for doxxing the kid.
And he got his friends on the medical board to reprimand and fine her.
“If I had been vice president, I would have told the states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia, and so many others, that we needed to have multiple slates of electors, and I think the U.S. Congress should have fought over it from there,” Vance said, referring to the fake pro-Trump electors that some states’ Republicans tried to send to Washington.
So we’ve just been doing it completely wrong for the past 225 years? This is what happens when fascists lose elections. They just make up new rules and say the old rules were wrong all along. The actual elections don’t matter and Congress just gets to appoint the President? That sounds super constitutional.
So we’ve just been doing it completely wrong for the past 225 years?
I mean, broadly speaking he ain’t wrong. The electoral college system is dumb and broke. It exists to dilute the power of the popular voter and centralize authority to select the President in the hands of State Secretaries and their election-administering deputies. That’s why Katherine Harris was such a BFD in the run up to Bush v Gore.
The actual elections don’t matter and Congress just gets to appoint the President?
No no no. The actual elections don’t matter and state legislatures get to appoint the electors who get to pick the President. But then their seats are gerrymandered, so really the governor’s guy in charge of writing state senate maps gets to select the state legislators who get to appoint the President.
And all that power is rolled up behind big lobbying groups, who get to bankroll the elections of these governors and their state senate allies.
So really its these Chamber of Commerce / Wall Street cartel / ALEC motherfuckers who get to select the President. Which is kinda how it already was, but now we cut out the voter entirely rather than doing the “Beauty Pageant in a Few Primary / Swing States” Kabuki Theater that gets people like Trump and Sanders within striking distance of a major party nomination ahead of insider loyalists like Jeb Bush and Nikki Haley and Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
Got him confused with the NY AG from a few years ago. Not him.
After working at a corporate law firm, Vance moved to San Francisco to work in the tech industry. He served as a principal at Peter Thiel’s venture capital firm, Mithril Capital.[21]
In 2016, Harper published Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis. It was on The New York Times Best Seller list in 2016 and 2017. It was a finalist for the 2017 Dayton Literary Peace Prize[22] and winner of the 2017 Audie Award for Nonfiction. The New York Times called it “one of the six best books to help understand Trump’s win”.[3] The Washington Post called him the “voice of the Rust Belt”,[2] while The New Republic criticized him as “liberal media’s favorite white trash–splainer” and the “false prophet of blue America.”[23] Economist William Easterly, a West Virginia native, criticized the book, writing, “Sloppy analysis of collections of people—coastal elites, flyover America, Muslims, immigrants, people without college degrees, you name it—has become routine. And it’s killing our politics.”[24]
So bad home life, goes to Yale Law, works with noted shitbag Peter Thiel and is now doing evil out loud and proud. Great.
A group of people tried to overthrow the government and interrupt the peaceful transfer of power in order to install their leader as president. Those people could be accurately described as enemies of the nation. Senator Vance here is saying that, if he had had the opportunity, he would have seen that those people were successful. Vance has sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. Isn’t this giving aid and comfort to the nation’s enemies? That pretty much meets the definition of treason if so.
Treason is a stretch. Seditious conspiracy? 100%