Yup.
Growing up I also learned that violence begets violence and hate leads to more hate. Then I grew up and realized nobody cares about that.Did it ever occur to you that the writers of that show saw the horrors and apathy of the world and tried to shape a generation. The goal wasn’t to teach us how to exist in the world we have but to create a more wholesome one.
Growing up I learned that fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering.
have children forgotten that we had a flower power/summer of love/ hippie generation and the impacts of that are still being felt today? jim henson, mister rogers, public broadcasting… all that stuff was a ripple effect from a generation of people who were fed up with protestant america’s quiet stoicism.
never forget that shit. those people changed western culture for the better. pick up the torch.
PBS was just one of many sources, but it probably helped. A lot of their programs for children include that message. It was particularly central to Mister Rodger’s Neighborhood. Fred Rodger’s was a national treasure.
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Growing up kids generally know it’s OK to love everyone, what you should be asking is who teaches us it isn’t, and why…
Well, if your like me you might forget who taught you and think maybe you were taught wrong. Knowing it was PBS reassures me that it wasn’t some bullshit I read on a snapple cap but something we all learned and society had accepted as a universal truth.
I really don’t think relying on something having come from PBS to prove it isn’t bullshit, or worse, “a universal truth”, is the best plan…
To reiterate my previous point - human beings don’t need to be taught to love or be kind or share or cooperate, those things are hardwired in us, have been for tens if not hundreds of thousands of years, so there is no need for you to remember who taught you these things, because no one did.
What we are taught, in large by the media as well as education systems (beyond maybe pre-school where kids are still allowed to just be kids rather than worker drones in training), and our parents, who were indoctrinated in the same ways we are, is that the opposite is true and that we are designed to compete, and “the strongest survive” and all that other capitalistic, white supremacist, patriarchal, cisheteronormative, ableist bullshit designed to divide us and keep us from turning on those imposing these artificial systems.So again - asking where you learned to love will never get you an answer, because you were born that way. If you want to know why, as an adult, it doesn’t seem true or acceptable anymore, but more importantly - to combat the problem, you have to be asking who is engineering this natural instinct out of society and making you believe it isn’t ok to love everyone, and why.
You totally misread what I said so I’m not even going to bother with your wall of text. Bettin 1/10 I’m going to have to block you.
WTF dude they’re not even arguing with you
I really don’t think relying on something having come from PBS to prove it isn’t bullshit, or worse, “a universal truth”, is the best plan…
Sounds like an argument. No, you’re right, it’s an argument but it’s not with me because that is not what I said.
Literally a direct reply to what you said lol
Read what I said
Knowing it was PBS reassures me that it wasn’t some bullshit I read on a snapple cap but something we all learned and society had accepted as a universal truth.
When I said it wasn’t bullshit I was specifically referring to piffy bullshit that appears in slogans, advertisements, and on “snapple caps.” I wasnt saying it (referring to “It’s OK to love anyone”) wasn’t bullshit but just a specific kind of bullshit.
I also never implied that what PBS says is a universal truth. Only that the fact that because it was shown on PBS, universally watched pubilc programming, society had adopted it as a ‘universal truth’.
Either way, those are the things I am willing to argue about.
I really don’t think relying on something having come from PBS to prove it isn’t bullshit, or worse, “a universal truth”, is the best plan.
^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^ I am not.
That’s why representation definitely matters.
I grew up in Redneckville, US with a population-of-color totaling zero. Primetime shows with minority or diverse casts (Family Matters, Martin, Ghostwriter, Sister Sister, Hangin’ WIth Mr. Cooper, etc) showed me very early on that people are just people.
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The Big Blue Marble was produced by Rick Berman, who later produced Star Trek TNG and the 90’s / 00’s trek shows.
Apparently he was not well liked and Star Trek did well in spite of him as producer.
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