• grendel@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The real answer to that is, dear firstworlders, you want too much and you think you deserve it. For the entirety of history people lived in big families exactly because they couldn’t afford all the shit on their own, the couldn’t get more houses out of nowhere or easily get more land. The shithole countries live like that right now and nobody says I’m gonna stop reproducing because I can’t decide whether I want a steamdeck or like a child crib. Because of this mindset we do actually have the global warming, and no amount of banned (but not really) plastic straws will fix that.

    You want infinite expansion of wealth? Go to Mars.

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      6 months ago

      While I agree that in general the demands of wealthy nations are frequently excessive, there was a time in those nations where, as the meme describes, relatively poor families could own a home and support a family on a single income. That disappeared not because everyone stated wanting more, but because of constant, intentional inflation of house prices and depression of wages (relative to inflation) by capitalists.

      Any attempt to redirect blame onto the people this affects, by accusing them of “wanting too much” plays into the hands of those capitalists.

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        6 months ago

        accusing them of “wanting too much”

        It’s not accusations, it’s a statement of a fact. How many smartphones would an average westerner own in their life? How much clothes? All other useless “things” that nobody can live without? When europoors were starving and couldn’t afford living in Europe, they moved and colonised America and Siberia, maybe it’s time to think about moving to Venezuela or something where you’d definitely be able to afford a house and whatnot?

        And on a slightly less vitriolic note, why blame corpos for inequality when you yourself vote for the officials who make the corpo dreams come true? I mean they do only what people allow them to do.

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          Lmao I’m sorry do only “westerners” have phones? Or clothes? Do people outside the west not have trinkets that they don’t really need? Of course they fucking do. Moving to a poorer country only works if you move with significant capital… If you are from America and you have no money, moving to Venezuela just means you still have no money but now you live in Venezuela, not sure how that’s supposed to help.

          Not sure what your point is re politicians. They bear culpability alongside the capitalists, yes.

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            5 months ago

            have phones? Or clothes?

            the question is how much. When did you buy your last phone? A year ago? Two? I’m still rocking my nokia dumb phone I got like 15 years ago. Same with everything else. The consumption is orders of magnitude more, literally.

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      Yeah… so, the record high inequality is just nothing to think about, because suddenly we don’t deserve to own a house for one life’s worth of work…? What a joke take

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        6 months ago

        I wonder what would slaves or serfs say about your record high inequality.