• Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    So, no corporations and no individual wealth? Who owns a factory or a datacenter? These are fantastically expensive things. A chip foundry cannot exist under these conditions.

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      $999,999,999

      no individual wealth

      I don’t think you have a strong enough concept of large numbers to be able to hold a respectable opinion here.

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        11 months ago

        You didn’t answer the question though.

        Who owns a factory or a datacenter? These are fantastically expensive things. A chip foundry cannot exist under these conditions.

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          11 months ago

          It could be owned by, like, multiple people? Also, a lot of companies in the world, and especially the ones managing costly infrastructure assets, are owned by states (which are a form of “multiple people”).

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            11 months ago

            Multiple people working together with 1 goal? Like a … Company?

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                11 months ago

                So a company whose ownership is open to the public, with that ownership divided into “shares”. And all the “share” holders can cooperate to decide the direction of the company…what would one call this novel form of organizing a venture…a “cooperation”?

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                  Not open to the public. Open to those who actually contribute to it’s operations.

                  And in none of your objections can you justify the CEO pay and the political power they weild. 40x the lowest paid worker, and no more.

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                    11 months ago

                    Ok so. Shares of ownership are open only to employees. How does this company get external investment? I suppose outside entities are allowed to invest with an expectation of a return on investment?

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      11 months ago

      Workers own the factory. Collectively. Through democratic process of any variety.

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        In those situations what do the workers that have no interest in owning the means of production do? Like, if you just want to do your job and go home, is there still room for you under that system? Or does it require active participation from every worker?