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    It’s amazing how dumb this entire situation is. To my knowledge she hasn’t even publicly endorsed a candidate or political party, right? Just suggested her fans register to vote?

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      Correct. They’ve tacitly acknowledged for quite a while that discouraging their enemies from voting is a big part of their strategy, though, and I don’t think anyone involved thinks the Taylor Swift fans are also Trump fans.

      Honestly, if someone tries to tell you voting won’t change anything, just point to how hard they try to rig the systems that drive it and how much they freak out about any indication that their enemies are planning to vote in large numbers.

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      6 months ago

      Republicans understand that demographics are against them, and their only chance is to whip their base into a froth while simultaneously making it harder for Others to vote.

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        Ding ding ding

        Just like it is every election season. Republicans rely on the electoral vote, propaganda, and systematic diseducation (idk if that’s even a word, case in point?) to ensure victories over the populace

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          “Education” is from Latin “educ” which means “lead out”. The reverse would be to lead in, which is “ducere in”. So if you want to make a new but old-fashioned word, I suggest “ducereination” or because the “e-i”" syllables are uncomfortable to say and would have likely been dropped over time, “ducerination”. The “c” might be pronounced as an “s” or as a “k” depending on how the word would have evolved since ancient times, but I prefer a “k” sound (which I think is the wrong one according to Google) so it sounds like the “c” in “education”.

          Note that I don’t know Latin.

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            I don’t know a goddamn thing about Latin grammar, but it looks like you could follow the etymology of “education” more closely. The “educ” part is itself derived from “ex ducere”, so we could probably have “inducation”

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              Y’all. Did you have your coffees this morning?

              There’s already an organically evolved etymologically rich word for the “passing of closed thinking”, that harkens back to “leading in” or Inducing…

              Indoctrination.

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                Yeah, but the right only agree that indoctrination exists when it’s colleges indoctrinating people into free-thought which they call being woke. Say that word to them and they’ll be like “rubber, glue, you” because that’s about as many syllables as the average right-winger can muster, and about as intelligent a complete thought as I expect from them as well.

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                  I guarantee you they’ll feel the same way if you say ducerination or inducation. Words they don’t understand are inherently an attack, just like woke, which originally meant someone or something that was championing the rights of people in modern times

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      Yes. That is all she did. Got them to register to vote. She didn’t even hint at who they should vote for. That might change now, and not the way Republicans want.

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        Honestly, it’s such an incredible own goal. By aligning themselves in opposition to her, Republicans are begging for her fans to vote against them.

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      She endorsed Biden in 2020 so there is a good chance she will again.

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      Registering to vote helps Democrats more than Republicans, because first time voters and younger voters are more likely to vote Democrat. Republicans do better when less people vote.

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        Registering to vote helps Democrats more than Republicans, because first time voters and younger voters are more likely to vote Democrat many more people want to vote for Democrats.

        Though your original version is also correct.

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          Yes, absolutely. If we made voting mandatory, made Election Day a national holiday, and actually managed to get our turnout over 90%, the Democrats would landslide every election and the Republicans know it.

          An awful lot of Republican policy makes sense when you view them as a party with a shrinking base. They’re trying to eek out what they can before shifting over to a new base.

          Rubio, Cruz, and De Santis have been trying to build Hispanic bases, though none of them are really charismatic enough to pull it off.

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    Donald Trump is losing the war against his own stupid mouth, of course he’s not going to win against the Swifties.

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    It will be so wild if the only reasons we manage to avoid fascism and authoritarian takeover in 2024 end up being weed and Taylor Swift.

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      You know what? It’s kinda nice that it may come down to mainstream culture to bring this poison down. It just highlights how different our culture is from our politics. I’m not sure I have point.

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        You do very much have a point, and it’s well made, considering that it’s just another way of pointing out that our elected representatives are completely out of touch with the majority of citizens they purport to represent. If our politics is different from our culture, it’s because our politicians are different from our people – and that should not be the case in a representative democracy.

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    Watching Kimmel’s monologue from yesterday-

    The same people who believe Joe Biden has dementia and needs Kamala Harris to feed him butterscotch tapioca every night also believe that he has somehow planned and executed a diabolicalically brilliant scheme to fix the NFL playoffs so the biggest pop star in the world can pop up on the jumbotron during the Superbowl in between a Kia and a Tostitos commercial to hypnotize her 11-year-old fans into voting for Joe Biden.

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    “Donald Trump and his far-right ‘holy war’ against Taylor Swift could cost him the next presidential election.”

    News from a completely normal and not broken at all timeline. Imagine reading that sentence to someone 10 years ago.

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      10 years ago was still 2 years left in the final Obama administration. Add on just a bit more to really drive those 2014 people crazy:

      “After an unsuccessful violent insurrection to stay in the White House after being voted out, Donald Trump and his far-right ‘holy war’ against Taylor Swift could cost him the next presidential election.”

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          We’re past Idiocracy. President Camacho listened to the smartest person in the room. Trump thinks he is the smartest person in the room.

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            Trump knows he’s not the smartest person in the room. Trump wants to claim to be the smartest person in the room, and enjoys watching nobody correct him. That makes him feel like the most powerful person in the room. He doesn’t care who the smartest is, as long as he gets to claim it and all the credit for everything smarter people do near him.

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    I still fail to see anything resembling logic in the GOP’s sudden war against Taylor Swift. I don’t follow Taylor Swift at all, but to my knowledge has never publicly endorsed a candidate or even taken a side on a political issue. She is a pop singer currently enjoying outsized popularity, but it’s mostly about catering to preteen girls, and showing up at NFL games acting as if she’s just the world’s richest starstruck fan.

    Her base, or at least the ones old enough to vote, aren’t interested in her politics. They’re interested in her music. They’re interested in her fashion. They’re interested in watching her fawn all over Travis Kelce like she’s a 12 year old girl. There was no overlap between Swifties and the political left.

    But if the GOP wants to put that ball in play, there will be. They are currently trying to frame it as you can either be a Swiftie or MAGA. And if the GOP thinks that Swifties are going to abandon her for Donald fucking Trump, they’re going to have a bad time. And given how tight the race is in some of the swing states Trump needs to carry if he has a shot at winning, there is a very real possibility that he could end up losing races in states he may have otherwise won because he pissed off enough Swifties to swing the election. (Remember that some of these states were decided by barely 10,000 votes. I will guarantee you there is not a state in the country that doesn’t have at least that many Swifties, probably several times over.)

    Taylor Swift’s fan base aren’t cans of Bud Light. Taylor Swift doesn’t have corporate shareholders to answer to. Taylor Swift isn’t going to back down out of fear of lost sales. Any Swifties that are motivated enough to go to the polls based off of this stupid culture war I will guarantee will vote in lockstep for Biden. Not even for policy reasons, but just as their way of telling the GOP to go fuck themselves.

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        They’re mostly worried about this: https://www.npr.org/2023/09/22/1201183160/taylor-swift-instagram-voter-registration

        When Taylor Swift speaks, her fans listen.

        On Tuesday morning, the singer posted a short message on Instagram encouraging her 272 million followers to register to vote. Afterward, the website she directed her fans to — the nonpartisan nonprofit Vote.org — recorded more than 35,000 registrations, according to the organization.

        “I’ve been so lucky to see so many of you guys at my U.S. shows recently. I’ve heard you raise your voices, and I know how powerful they are,” she wrote on her Instagram Stories. “Make sure you’re ready to use them in our elections this year!” Her post included a link to register at Vote.org.

        The 35,252 new registrations on National Voter Registration Day were the most since 2020, the organization said, and a 23% jump over last year. The number of 18-year-olds registered was more than double 2022.

        They know what’s coming. They can’t stop it.

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    It’s 2024 and Swifties are scarier than Anonymous; Maybe it’s looking glass-ception and we need to go through more of them.

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              The schizophrenia sufferers I’ve worked with seemed not to have a definite or enduring sense of what they believed, but none of them said Nazi shit. No, that was the old guy with FAS who was raised by an actual nazi.

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                But, they can be influenced by the people around them, and dude was hanging out with Donald Trump for a bit there.

                I’m not a Kanye supporter by any means. I don’t think I’ve ever intentionally listened to his music, but I do know he’s severely mentally ill and needs to be on antipsychotics.

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            I’m so sick and tired too of him saying that he’s bipolar. He’s 1000% self diagnosed and it does a disservice to mental health professionals and people who suffer from bipolar disorder.

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    If Trump loses, I hope they have Taylor Swift play at Biden’s Inauguration. I don’t even like Taylor Swift’s music, but it’d be a nice slap in the face to the GOP.

    Actually, one tactic the Biden campaign could use to get out Swifties to vote for him is to pre-emptively get Taylor Swift to agree before the election to a concert at his inauguration. “Hey, if we win, guess who you can come see for free in concert?”

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      I can hear my mom yelling about it now. Funny how she was mostly ignorant about here existence until Fox News started complaining about her and now she hates her guts. Always liked watching the super bowl until this mess and now she’s “maybe I don’t bother”.

      But if I poke her about it she turns into “I am not just parroting them. You need to stop reading CNN and all those brainwashed sources.”

      It’s so close to realizing, but won’t cross the line. I have read about 2 articles from CNN in my entire life. The entire news industry hates maga now. It’s pretty much just FN, Newsmax, and the absolute far end of the spectrum of hate preachers and Alex Jones that say anything close to what you want to hear, as far as I can see.

      Yeah if the entire world can agree on something, but my preferred group is the holdout, I think I would re-examine my view. It’s just mind boggling that just one huge mainstream network says stuff that all the others disagree with, and that’s the one you are just so sure it’s right about everything.

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        You should try to sit down with her and watch, “The Brainwashing of my Dad” documentary. See if anything resonates with her at all.

        Alternatively remind her that the RNC had Clint Eastwood speak at the convention, talking to an empty chair strangely…

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          She is stuck on that side. If she knows some kind of news or information is not sanctioned by Fox News she automatically either avoids listening to it in the first place, or discounts it immediately. Even on just local news (and this is a very conservative area, at least this half of the state) if they say something about gay people, or just mention a gay event and if they don’t immediately say something negative about it, she just rolls her eyes.

          Even with a TV show she likes, if gay characters do a gay thing (omg 2 dudes kissing!) she will literally make the noise… Umm what is the word for it… Retching, I think? Whatever the barf noise is called. She will literally make that noise and look away from the screen.

          There is nothing rational about this kind of behavior, you can’t win this argument. The chess board is already on the floor here.

          So I don’t know anything about that documentary, but if she has any reason to think it’s not sponsored by Fox News, it’s literally just fiction at best and “Communist Marxist propaganda” at worst.

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            Yeah that’s sad but I can completely understand. Religions have been abusing this for eons and now it’s being used directly for a political ideology. There comes a point where reason doesn’t even matter.

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    I really feel this is a Streisand Effect taking action. There’s no way this doesn’t make Taylor Swift more political.

    Her voter-turnout drives will be massive for the election.

    Oh and if you hear any of these people complain about celebrities, remind them that they got Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair at the RNC in some demented rant.

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    To put that into perspective, the 2020 US Census found there are around 258.3 million adults in the country. If that and the aforementioned survey are correct, that means there are nearly 137 million voting-age Swift supporters situated across the US, or approximately 60% of the total number of votes cast in the 2020 presidential election for either Biden or Trump.

    I’ve always said a third party vote is a waste.

    But the vast majority of my presidential votes has been for candidates I think will be bad presidents, just a Republican would be worse.

    If Tay Tay ran a third party campaign…

    I’d vote for her in a heartbeat, literally every reason that’s making me vote Biden is true for her as well. She has the support to pull it off, enough that if she ran, voting for Biden would be the “throwing your vote away” choice.

    Even if she literally did nothing as president, that’s better than Biden only doing some of the awful shit trump would do.

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      If Tay Tay ran a third party campaign

      Gotta love the fame worshipping going on in this entire thread. People are fawning over one billionaire versus another.

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        If you’re only comparing someone to trump or Biden, most people are going to seem like the “no brainer” pick for president.

        It’s what happens when Dems aim for just slightly better than Republicans’ consistent “worst candidate of all time”.

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        It’s not even much of a joke.

        Like, we have to put up with Dems favoring corporations and all types of shit because “that’s what it takes to get elected”.

        But Taylor doesn’t need to do that to get elected.

        Her campaign could literally consist of a tweet saying:

        I’m registered to run in the 2024 election

        And her fans would take it from there.

        The Democratic party just insists on running geriatrics that over 50% of the country hate. It’s a terrible strategy, but that’s what happens when the people coming up with the strategy are geriatrics over 50% of the country hates…

        They’re just going to keep saying they’re the ones who should be in power, and since they’re a private organization we have no other choices…

        A billionaire celebrity is literally the only one who can win from outside the system and has a chance to fix it.

        Reason 2,763 why America’s political system is so fucked, only Tay Tay can save us

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      That would be an interesting constitutional test too: she’s not currently eligible to be President (but by swearing-in time she will be)