Palestinians are a national group and should qualify under the statutes, I didn’t think that was ever under question. Hamas, however, is a political group and therefore not protected. If those Israeli statements refer to them, I don’t believe they violate any statutes.
Israel was fighting “human animals”.
If this referred to Hamas militants, not Palestinians in general, it is not incitement to genocide.
President Isaac Herzog saying, “It’s an entire nation out there that is responsible”.”
An entire nation did in fact elect Hamas to power and to this day they enjoy popular support among Palestinians, which would in fact make them responsible for everything that followed from their leadership. Pointing this out is not incitement to violence against them.
The phrases "he had ordered ‘complete siege’ of Gaza City”, and later said “we will eliminate everything” sure doesn’t make it sound like they are interested in limiting it to Hamas.
"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
a. Killing members of the group;
b. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
c. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
d. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
e. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
That’s assuming that he was being 100% literal. Even if he was, Hamas uses civilian infrastructure thereby making non-military targets into legal military targets. In this context, “eliminating everything,” doesn’t necessarily mean destroying protected sites illegally.
More importantly, when it comes to operations and not merely statements, it’s very clear that Israel is quite selective about choosing targets, and they care if they are legal or not, they even built an AI for this purpose. They go to great lengths to try and minimize civilian deaths during their operations, taking far more precautions than I’m aware that any other country does. Info on how the IDF does this despite Hamas hiding among civilians can be found here.
Except Hamas is the excuse and was never the real target. The real target are and always have been the Palestinian people.
The popularity of Hamas is a consequence of 70+ years of subjugation under control of the settlers. The genocide of Palestinians didn’t start 100+ days ago; it started with the Nakba.
Except Hamas is the excuse and was never the real target. The real target are and always have been the Palestinian people.
Perhaps it seems that way because of the popular support of Hamas and intifada in Palestine, the fact that Hamas is comprised of Palestinians, and because they hide among civilians to maximize collateral damage.
The popularity of Hamas is a consequence of 70+ years of subjugation under control of the settlers. The genocide of Palestinians didn’t start 100+ days ago; it started with the Nakba.
And why did the Nakba happen? All the jew murdering. Jews started out legally buying lands until they were murdered and genocided and ethnically cleansed by Arab nationalists and neighboring Arab countries allied with Palestine. It’s incredible you see the constant aggressors as the victims.
This is what happened when the shoe was on the other foot:
For the first time in 1,000 years not a single Jew remains in the Jewish Quarter. Not a single building remains intact. This makes the Jews’ return here impossible
“The operations of calculated destruction were set in motion. I Knew that the Jewish Quarter was densely populated with Jewish populations who caused their fighters a good deal of interference and difficulty. I embarked, therefore on shelling of the quarter with mortars creating harassment and destruction. Only for days after our entry into Jerusalem, the Jewish Quarter become their graveyard. Death and destruction reigned over it. As the down of May 28th was about to break, the Jewish Quarter emerged in convulsive cloud-a cloud of death and agony”
Yet somehow Israel is the bad guy and must be restrained, It is Israel who is genocidal for defending themselves, not the explicitly genocidal Hamas, not the constantly belligerent terrorists next door who target civilians and want to destroy Israel in whole in or in part.
Palestinians are a national group and should qualify under the statutes, I didn’t think that was ever under question. Hamas, however, is a political group and therefore not protected. If those Israeli statements refer to them, I don’t believe they violate any statutes.
If this referred to Hamas militants, not Palestinians in general, it is not incitement to genocide.
An entire nation did in fact elect Hamas to power and to this day they enjoy popular support among Palestinians, which would in fact make them responsible for everything that followed from their leadership. Pointing this out is not incitement to violence against them.
The phrases "he had ordered ‘complete siege’ of Gaza City”, and later said “we will eliminate everything” sure doesn’t make it sound like they are interested in limiting it to Hamas.
Everything, not everyone. It sounds like he’s referring to destroying infrastructure, not people, but I’m not in his head so I could be wrong.
If your intent is to “eliminate everything”, that’s including non military targets, and would fall under Article II of the Genocide Convention:
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
a. Killing members of the group;
b. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
c. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
d. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
e. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
How dare you bring facts?
That’s assuming that he was being 100% literal. Even if he was, Hamas uses civilian infrastructure thereby making non-military targets into legal military targets. In this context, “eliminating everything,” doesn’t necessarily mean destroying protected sites illegally.
More importantly, when it comes to operations and not merely statements, it’s very clear that Israel is quite selective about choosing targets, and they care if they are legal or not, they even built an AI for this purpose. They go to great lengths to try and minimize civilian deaths during their operations, taking far more precautions than I’m aware that any other country does. Info on how the IDF does this despite Hamas hiding among civilians can be found here.
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Cope and justification.
Except Hamas is the excuse and was never the real target. The real target are and always have been the Palestinian people.
The popularity of Hamas is a consequence of 70+ years of subjugation under control of the settlers. The genocide of Palestinians didn’t start 100+ days ago; it started with the Nakba.
Perhaps it seems that way because of the popular support of Hamas and intifada in Palestine, the fact that Hamas is comprised of Palestinians, and because they hide among civilians to maximize collateral damage.
And why did the Nakba happen? All the jew murdering. Jews started out legally buying lands until they were murdered and genocided and ethnically cleansed by Arab nationalists and neighboring Arab countries allied with Palestine. It’s incredible you see the constant aggressors as the victims.
This is what happened when the shoe was on the other foot:
Yet somehow Israel is the bad guy and must be restrained, It is Israel who is genocidal for defending themselves, not the explicitly genocidal Hamas, not the constantly belligerent terrorists next door who target civilians and want to destroy Israel in whole in or in part.