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    This is an incredibly biased article that elevates a voice equating the support of ending the Palestinian genocide with anti-semitism, which is demonstrably false.

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      This is Variety. A film and media trade magazine. Are we expecting hard hitting journalism from this?

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          Gaza is controlled by terrorists who launched an attack against Israel and Israel is responding to the attack. Civilians die in war, but the Israeli goal is very clearly not genocide.

            • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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              Allegations. UN member countries that support South Africa’s complaint at the UN:

              Presidents of Algeria, Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Cuba, Iran, Türkiye, and Venezuela have all described Israel’s actions as a genocide, as has the Palestinian President. State officials and representatives from Bangladesh, Egypt, Honduras, Iraq, Jordan, Libya, Malaysia, Namibia, Pakistan, Syria, and Tunisia.

              They all have such impressive credibility on human rights and totally don’t have an ax to grind against or an Iran to suck up to. /s

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                Because you like to pick and choose things to make your “argument” of accepting genocide, let me just quote all of the high ranking Israel officials saying God awful Nazi shit:

                Netanyahu said “You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible.” The Bible says “Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants.”

                IDF Major general Giora Eiland wrote “Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist”.[23] He added “Creating a severe humanitarian crisis in Gaza is a necessary means to achieving the goal.”[23] Israeli historian Omer Bartov writes that no Israeli politician nor anyone in the IDF denounced this statement.

                The spokesperson for the Israeli army said, in regards to Israel’s bombing of Gaza, “the emphasis is on damage not accuracy”. This statement was interpreted by legal scholars as intention of destruction.

                Look at these Israeli Nazis creating their own little holocaust.

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                    This article is paywalled. And all I could read was that you can’t use statements from people with no direct role in military operations. You think none of those people have influence over their military operations? You don’t think Benjamin Netenyahu has influence to what the IDF does?

                    Tell me how they say those awful things, and then along with that they intentionally starve Palestinians and don’t give them water and you say that isn’t connected and that it isn’t an attempt at culling the population.

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            It’d be nice if they’d stop bombing hospitals and depriving millions of people of the basic necessities of survival then. Oh, and it’d also be nice if they’d stop referring to Palestinians as animals and shooting children in the west bank. And It’d be nice if Netanyahu would stop saying his goal is to annex the west bank and the Gaza strip. And if the Israeli state would stop encouraging settlers to illegally (by their own laws) occupy the west bank.

            The attack was also 3 months ago. And tens of thousands of Palestinians have been murdered since then.

            • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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              It’s not annexation, it’s called irredentism in this circumstance. Gaza is uninhabitable from structural and civil engineering standpoints because of Hamas’s tunnels. It has no capacity or resources to make itself safe. It has also proven it has no ability or desire to actually root out Hamas. So now their neighbor is morally obligated to do it for them.

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              To be fairrrr, Id argue that does in fact mean Gaza is controled by terorists, but clearly thats not the point the other guy is making.

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            As if this all started on October 7. Let’s just not account for all that inconvenient stuff that happened earlier. Got it.

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            Approaching 30k dead, half of which are children. When does it become genocide in your eyes?

            You bring much of the antisemitism you experience on yourselves, bub.

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              Causing high civilian casualties is literally Hamas’s strategy, holding their families as human shields, preventing people from evacuating, etc.

              Isn’t that the superceding cause of virtually every civilian death?

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                High civilian causalities? Are you serious? Whonos the one that killed over 20,000 people? Who are the ones starving half a million people? Is it Hamas? No Its Israel. “High civilian causalities” my ass. The IDF also caused some of the causalities on October 7th too. They shot indiscriminately and hit their own people.

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            I agree. Civilian death tolls have been rapidly going down, not increasing. The airstrikes match up with the tunnels systems. There is no credibility to claims of “indiscriminate” bombings. The high number of civilian casualties is simply and readily explained by the fact that Hamas refused to let people evacuate and forced them to remain behind to be used as human shields and martyrs. High civilian casualties is one of Hamas’s weapons, and with Iran’s influence campaigns and astroturfing, it’s working to trick a lot of people whose ignorance and gullibility are going to allow Trump to win another term.

            The only countries who’ve joined South Africa’s complaint to the UN criminal court are dictatorships, authoritarian , and/or theocratic shitholes such as Iran, Syria, Bahrain, Iraq, Brazil, Venezuela, Malaysia, and Cuba. The question South Africa’s complaint raises, after sorting through the circular logic, recursive reasoning, and claims attributed to incredible sources or simply “reports,” is when did South Africa start doing Iran’s bidding?

            There’s been some heinous war crimes committed by IDF soldiers, maybe even a culture that causes soldiers to go too far. Those are the exception, by a lot. I have faith that, as a democracy, credible accusations will be investigated and charged within the customs of Israel’s military justice system, and most reports of atrocities have been highly exaggerated, recursive, and/or lack basic indicia of credibility.

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              “match up with tunnel systems” they leveled countless city blocks. They’ve bombed hospitals, they tell Palestinians to go to one part of Gaza where they say it’s “safe” and then they bomb there too. Over 20,000 people dying is not a fucking accident, it’s all intentional. They aren’t even letting them eat or have water. Forced starvation and dehydration among the whole population, oh wow yeah that really doesn’t sound like they’re trying to get rid of all of them.

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        It’s pretty insane that people can just say these straight up Nazi takes on here and not get banned but if you say anything slightly controversial the other way around suddenly it’s a huge problem.