• Leviathan@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    In fascist rhetoric the enemy is always both weak and strong. It’s a real easy indicator that you’re hearing propaganda.

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      10 months ago

      Not being political here, just thinking logically. Isn’t it possible for a subgroup of a large group to do X while another subgroup of the same large group does Y?

      I’m not sure if these options are mutually exclusive when it comes to large sets of individuals.

      This is just logical thinking, I have no statistics and this is not a political stance.

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        10 months ago

        That was my first thought as well. Assuming a large enough amount of immigrants, they could be overwhelming both the welfare system and the job market. A sufficiently large group of additional people would overwhelm every system, and depending on the preexisting conditions, that group might not need to be all that big

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          10 months ago

          They do a great job of hiding the fallacy by placing a single individual in the photo and saying “immigrant” instead of “immigrants”.

          I’m not sure about American law, but something tells me that it’s even possible for an individual to do both things.

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          It’s kinda hard to overwhelm the job market tho, at least if the economy is growing. In that case, more workers would likely facilitate growth, since the growing workforce will also have money to spend and create demand. If the market was already very competitive, things would be different, but developed countries are usually hungry for skilled workers. Demographics dictate this will only become more true as time passes

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            10 months ago

            It’s a pretty complex situation, I really have no position. I just think I’ve seen some funny things like:

            • “low-skill jobs is a myth created by the rich to justify low wages”

            and then others saying:

            • “Illegal immigration doesn’t affect the average wage of Americans because immigrants go for the low-skill market while Americans go for the high-skill market”

            Which is pretty similar to the meme.