I share your dismay w/r/t the ‘origin story’ trope, and started typing a much more cynical comment. But it’s not like you can’t tell a good story within those parameters. Plenty of good prequels exist. And lots of people were not big fans of Picard’s efforts to advance the timeline.
The determining factor for me will be the quality of the writing. I haven’t seen this Black Mirror episode, but I’ll check it out.
I liked the idea of advancing the timeline in Picard, but I didn’t like the way they did it.
I would’ve loved for the people behind SNW to write the Picard timeline, but the whole robot genocide/renegade defenders stuff was just a little disappointing to see. All the good things about the Federation seemed to have disappeared, except for the deus ex machina appearances that the occasional guest characters provided, and I think that was a real shame.
The Black Mirror episode is very much a typical Black Mirror story, but the writing seemed like it was done by someone with a love for the franchise. The contents of the episode aren’t very much about Star Trek and its ideals, but the clichés were portrayed honestly and in good faith, in my opinion.
The “I won’t try it because it’s a prequel” argument reminds me of “Deep Space Nine is boring because the station doesn’t move”, as if every episode of TNG or TOS involved the ship being in motion, and if the presence of nacelles was somehow what made the writing good.
Honestly, that aspect of DS9 did put me off when it first aired, but in my defense I was a kid. I don’t think I got around to watching the whole series until sometime in my 30’s. I also think my JLP-lovin’ kid self thought it was total bullshit that Sisko held Picard responsible for the crimes of Locutus.
@Carlo@startrek I didn’t get into DS9 until I was older. I think its complexity and more morally grey tone would have put me off as a kid, but as an adult I loved it.
I share your dismay w/r/t the ‘origin story’ trope, and started typing a much more cynical comment. But it’s not like you can’t tell a good story within those parameters. Plenty of good prequels exist. And lots of people were not big fans of Picard’s efforts to advance the timeline.
The determining factor for me will be the quality of the writing. I haven’t seen this Black Mirror episode, but I’ll check it out.
I liked the idea of advancing the timeline in Picard, but I didn’t like the way they did it.
I would’ve loved for the people behind SNW to write the Picard timeline, but the whole robot genocide/renegade defenders stuff was just a little disappointing to see. All the good things about the Federation seemed to have disappeared, except for the deus ex machina appearances that the occasional guest characters provided, and I think that was a real shame.
The Black Mirror episode is very much a typical Black Mirror story, but the writing seemed like it was done by someone with a love for the franchise. The contents of the episode aren’t very much about Star Trek and its ideals, but the clichés were portrayed honestly and in good faith, in my opinion.
The “I won’t try it because it’s a prequel” argument reminds me of “Deep Space Nine is boring because the station doesn’t move”, as if every episode of TNG or TOS involved the ship being in motion, and if the presence of nacelles was somehow what made the writing good.
Honestly, that aspect of DS9 did put me off when it first aired, but in my defense I was a kid. I don’t think I got around to watching the whole series until sometime in my 30’s. I also think my JLP-lovin’ kid self thought it was total bullshit that Sisko held Picard responsible for the crimes of Locutus.
Same. DS9 is not as kid-accessible that’s for sure. Fun fac: DS9 actually has fewer bottle episodes than TNG.
@Carlo @startrek I didn’t get into DS9 until I was older. I think its complexity and more morally grey tone would have put me off as a kid, but as an adult I loved it.