Despite the efforts of LGBT activists to separate themselves from MAPs, we have always been and continue to be part of the queer community whether they like it or not. Decades of research have showed and continue to show that MAPs are much more likely to be queer.
As David Rigel says in his book “We were NOT abused!”, we only started being excluded from the gay movement in the late 70s due to political and monetary incentives:
After the scapegoat of adult male homosexuality was exculpated by the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association, a subset of the “gay” community – which, for political expediency, was soon excommunicated by newly empowered gay activists – became the new scapegoat in a targeted vendetta which began to emerge in the late 1970s. “Victimology,” and more specifically sexual victimology as it applies to boys, developed not from science, but from the ideologies of a few opportunistic individuals.
Later in chapter 7 he adds:
There are books and web sites devoted to subjects such as “Gay Men … who Enriched the World” (Cowan, 1966) and “Gay American History” (Katz, 1976). But in actuality, the general historical record has relatively little to say on the subject of adult male homosexuality, and the vast majority of proposed examples turn out to have been relationships between a prepubescent or adolescent boy and an adult male, not two adult males. Conversely, however, history does abound in sexually expressed relationships between adolescent and younger boys with older males; there are numerous well documented examples from classical Greece (Percy, 1996) through Wilfred Owen (Hibberd, 1986), and right up to modern times (Davidson, 1988), just to mention a few.
“Decades of research have showed and continue to show that MAPs are much more likely to be queer.” Any links for this?
Also on the matter of lgbt/pedo crossover, i dont fault them for distancing themselves, it only makes sense. They’ve been fighting for acceptance for decades and still so many reject them, though it seems they are very close, at least in the west. Being associated with pedophilia only hurts their cause which would of course be devastating as the modern world isnt ready for us yet.
Lets not be like crabs in a bucket, let them get out first. Maybe decades from now they might return to the bucket and lend us a claw, but now is not the time.
🐾I disagree with this approach. The LGBTQ+ community should accept MAPS and AAMs asap and accept us into groups now rather than later. The longer we wait the more queer assimilation sets in and leaves us behind, we already see this under rainbow capitalism and the queer liberal movement. Let’s get there together. Those alive and suffering now cannot afford to wait. An injury to one is an injury to all. This is a conversation that should be happening.
also it’s not like rejecting us has prevented bad faith grooming accusations. arguably it’s made LGBTQ+ kids more vulnerable by robbing us of rhetoric to combat it
