• Sandespt@lemmy.world
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    Unfortunately, as the article states, these are still expensive alternatives. People will not go that way of a cheaper, faster version exists. I think eu regulation will help increase standards of maintainability though

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      Agreed. At this point, those of us who want to support sustainable companies are not nearly enough to swing the pendulum. There is no incentive for carriers or manufacturers to produce and support longer lasting devices.

      Solving the problem will require regulation.

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    The other thing missed is laptops manufactured within the past 10 years will meet most people’s needs, so no need to purchase new if there is no hardware issues.

    And I wish they mentioned the TPM2 requirement Microsoft is forcing on people, that could generate a lot of ewaste.

    • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      If only they were made such that they could be easily cleaned and upgraded. I got an old laptop for free because it was extremely slow which made it unusable.
      After removing the dust carpet it ran pretty well again. (although I still later upgraded RAM, CPU, and HDD to SSD) Unfortunately it finally gave out, but it got me 3 extra years, in total going 16!
      Edit: That is not a factorial:)

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    I agree that we need more regulation in this area. It has been nice, though, that the market has seemed to show increasing interest in longer-lived products than it used to.

    Unfortunately, there are still too many people and businesses focused myopically on short-term costs, but the existence of a market for long-lived products is important, because it proves that there is a viable alternative way of building stuff. It’s not just that phones, computers, TVs, etc. must just naturally fail after 3-5 years. That’s a design decision based on short-term rewards and incentives, and we can change the design of those products if we eliminate or balance against those incentives with ones that favor a more long-term outlook.

    So, yeah: Joe Random Computerbuyer who just wants the biggest bang for his $300 at Wallyworld may never be the target market for a Framework laptop. But the existence of the Framework shows that there’s another way to build computers aside from what the Dells and various Chinese manufacturers churn out at the low end of the market. And that makes regulation viable, because regulators know that the alternative products exist. It’s just a matter of smacking some of the market players around a bit until they either become cheaper or the crappy alternatives (which tend to have externalized costs that everyone else has to pay) are removed.