• Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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    What? You’ve never been there where you can’t hear somebody say something and you’re like, “oh yeah for sure” because you need to move on.

    Seriously, listen to the guy. He sounds like talking with no teeth and a mouth full of marbles.

    I don’t know who this guy is, but his biggest faux pas here is saying, “I agree,” instead of “ok,” or something else.

    Edit: oh never mind, after watching again this guy was asking leading questions. He’s a shit journalist.

    Anyway, fuck this guy, but not for that part. I honestly believe he didn’t understand what ol’ Fatface Marblemouth there was saying because I didn’t either even while not having to deal with all the background noise.

    Edit 2: The downvotes tell me that tribalism is alive and well on the left. There’s plenty of things to criticize republicans on, why waste your time and energy getting mad about this? By showing you’re opponents zero understanding as human beings you’re also showing that you’ve fallen for the diversionary tactics used by those to keep us fighting amongst each other.

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      If he only said it the first time, I’d agree with you that it’s possible. But he said it, and then said it again more clearly. I’m sorry, but you can’t chalk this up to “he didn’t understand/hear.” If it were really loud there, even, and he said it twice, maybe you’d have a point. But it was not very loud where they were standing.

      Not to mention, he had the context of the conversation they were having. He was trying to goad them into spouting their rhetoric. There’s no way, given the context, the volume of the area, the fact that he said it twice…I’m sorry, you can’t buy his bullshit back peddling.

      I think exactly what they’d hope would happen has happened: create a controversy to become the new OAN. I, for sure, had never heard of “far right news” or whatever the fuck the name of that “network” was.

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        Yeah I get what you’re saying, but just yesterday at work I asked a guy to repeat himself and I did the whole “ok yeah gotcha” thing when I didn’t understand what he said even the second time. It happens.

        I’m not saying this guy isn’t a piece of shit, I’m just saying this incident isn’t the one to nail him on. The whole, “the globalists? The lefties?” or whatever the exact quote was is much more egregious in my opinion. A reporter shouldn’t be influencing people’s opinions.

        I agree with you about the context. I can tell this guy is part of the problem in America, I’m just not going to condemn him for something I did just yesterday. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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          Come on, you can’t be that naive. Yes, misunderstandings happen. But what are the chances that this reporter had a misunderstanding exactly when it was most politically expedient for him?

          There is this weird thing people do in modern politics, where the people that have the same political beliefs they do can just never be wrong. People have their team, and everything that comes out of anyone with the same color shirt on or the right letter next to their name is suddenly defensible, no matter how obviously silly or ridiculous.

          Like communists will defend every single massacre perpetrated under the banner of communism. It’s absolutely insane. Just admit that people who you agree with can do/say things that are just wrong. It’s not that hard. And it doesn’t make your convictions less your convictions.

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            I’ve been explaining myself all day about a joke I made at the expense of the moron who can’t speak correctly. I don’t care what you have to say. I’m sure it’s already been addressed in other comments.

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              Lol that was either the most layered, mundane, self-pleasing joke ever made in the history of humanity or…you’re just lying

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                Like yeah. Maybe it was a lame joke. I thought it was funny that their typical Trump supporter interviewee could be so ignorant and impossible to understand. Obviously he didn’t say “Joe Mall,” but that’s what I heard the first time and I was sharing that because I thought others would find it amusing. I was immediately accused of being a racist and told to gtfo.

                I’m now wondering if this whole ordeal is a psyop to make leftists look bad. I’m that blown away by the lack of understanding from this community.

                I learned some things here though. I learned that I shouldn’t have bothered to try to explain myself. The people in this community are desperate to find an enemy and I performed wrongthink. I was hoping that kind of garbage was left behind at reddit.

                Just go away. I’m not the one who should be ashamed here. If this continues I’ll block this whole community because what the fuck?

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      The downvotes tell me that tribalism is alive and well on the left.

      Dude said he wants to kill everyone that isn’t a trump supporter and you’re crying about tribalism on the left because of downvotes? Fucking seriously?

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        Haven’t you heard? Clicking a down arrow on the internet is literally the exact same thing as making a death threat. Both sides are equally bad!

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        No, Marblemouth said that. The guy’s a bad reporter and a reporter should never say, “I agree,” but rushing to condemn him over that is just as tribalistic as supporting him because he’s a, “right wing reporter.” (A thing that shouldn’t exist)

        If you really want to get him fired I’m sure he’s done way worse shit than not hear somebody.

        Anyway, I’ve already called talking about this a waste of energy yet here I am still talking about it, so I’m done. See ya.

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          I never mentioned the reporter.

          I was simply pointing out the absurdity of you crying about leftist tribalism because of downvotes on a video of a guy literally saying he wants to kill all non Trump supporters.

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            And I was talking about how it’s not unreasonable to believe that the reporter couldn’t hear Marblemouth in a loud environment and wasn’t aware of what he was saying “I agree” too.

            Marblemouth can go fuck himself and if that’s what you’re bitching at me about then at least be on the same page.

            And you know what? Marblemouth votes. Do you?

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              Ok, let’s get on the same page:

              Dipshit in the video: I want to kill all Biden voters.

              You: Tribalism on the left is the real problem because I’ve been downvoted on an anonymous Internet forum.

              Do you see the irony in your statement?

              I’ve voted in every major election since I was 18; thanks for asking.

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                You made it to all the part where I said that without reading the rest of the comment?

                I don’t know what to tell you, man.

                This is a prime example of how these diversionary tactics work. I’m on your side, but I think this particular incident isn’t worth our time.

                People here are looking for a fight. I originally just said, “Sounds like he said ‘Joe Mall’” and I was told to gtfo and then further harangued for explaining myself.

                And it does sound like that. The guy can’t fucking talk, but the people he supports are stripping us of our rights because their propaganda has worked on him.

                Now you’ve wasted both our time arguing with me about it instead of doing something productive and they’ve won.

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          but rushing to condemn him over that is just as tribalistic as supporting him

          lmfao Ah, the fabled “both sides” of saying you want to murder political rivals. Incredible to see you here saying it so loudly and proudly.

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            Haranguing me over saying “I dunno, it was loud and the guy can’t speak clearly. Maybe he didn’t actually understand what he said and was moving on, like we’ve all done.”

            Funny how people are completely ignoring the parts of my comments where I agree this guy sucks for other reasons, which are on display in the same video.

            Tribalism. The tribe has decided that I’m the enemy even though I am firmly on the side of anti-fascists, but you still have to be able to think for yourself, man. You’ve fallen for the divisionary tactics they use to make us fight each other.

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              I didn’t ignore that part, I just find it quite interesting that even after going back and fixing your post with follow up comments, you doubled down with this.

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                Is it not a loud event? Does the moron that actually said “Kill ‘em All” - or “Joe Mall” as I heard it myself - make sense to you? I had to listen to it twice to hear “Kill ‘em All.” Maybe I need to get my hearing checked?

                I was defending the reporter, but then I watched it again and was like, “oh, that part where he leads the guy on is the actual shitty thing he did that he wouldn’t be able to refute. It really doesn’t matter whether he agrees or not because I know he’s a piece of shit for that.”

                Like, string the guy up for the thing he actually did, not the thing with plausible deniability because it’s not going to go anywhere.

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                  Made pretty clear sense to me, yep. Because this isn’t a new revelation, and it’s not the first time we’ve heard this. Also, Joe Mall? Alrighty. You either haven’t watched the actual video, or you’re a terrible liar.

                  https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1685368569347932160

                  Go ahead and tell me how the reporter for RIGHT SIDE BROADCASTING NETWORK didn’t hear this dude properly? How he didn’t egg this yahoo on by saying the leftists, globalists, RINOs. Dude. You’re defending a reporter that told a rally attendee that he agreed with “kill 'em all”. You’re really going to die on this hill and blame US for downvoting you? lmfao

                  Again, the ever elusive “two sides” of calling for death to political opponents is on display here and you’re not even ashamed of it. Incredible.

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                    Nope, that’s the video. Like seriously. That guy is fucking unintelligible. Am I taking crazy pills here?

                    Like I’m Canadian dude, I don’t even have a say over there, but if it means anything to you for context, I’m an NDP voter here.

                    And yeah yeah I get it. He’s a real piece of shit. I’ve never heard of this organization.

                    Tell me you’ve never misheard someone in a loud environment and just nodded and moved on. I won’t believe you. I’m not saying he does or doesn’t agree, I’m just saying it’s a good enough argument for them and you’re not going to get anywhere with that.

                    I said he was egging him on by saying that and that’s the real thing to be upset about. Is there a typo in one of my previous comments I should fix?

                    Overemphasizing the importance of the thing with plausible deniability while ignoring the undeniable fact that he’s biased as fuck - which are both on display in that video - will not change anyone’s mind. Making me the bad guy for suggesting we shift focus to that just allows them to keep doin it.

                    I was just making a stoned joke about the moron’s inability to speak clearly and now I’m a Nazi. I’m having a great day thanks for asking. How’s yours?

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      He has an earpiece in, he can hear what’s being said into the microphone. He agreed because he was pandering.

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      Bro you can’t even admit that this dude meant what he said because he’s right wing and you’re whining about tribalism

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        I mean, he could be lying. I’m just saying it’s not unbelievable that he didn’t understand what he was “agreeing” too because it’s loud and the moron he’s talking to can barely speak.

        I don’t fucking care if he meant it or not. Everyone’s right that he’s a shit journalist. My point is that you could get on his case about the other obvious propaganda tactics in the video instead of the one that will never gain traction and I can’t believe that me making fun of old Marblemouth there led to me being called a Nazi in the comments. 🙄🙄🙄

        Everyone here is so eager for a fight? Put your money where your mouth is, go find him, punch him in the mouth and leave me alone. I’ll pitch five bucks for your flight.

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          This is all a lot less funny when you put into context that nearly all domestic terrorism in the US is from right wingers. These people listen when others say to be violent.

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            I agree with that 100%

            Like Christ, I started this conversation by making fun of the asshole that actually said it and I guess it wasn’t funny enough because I was instantly told to gtfo.

            Then I’m like “meh, it was loud. Maybe he didn’t actually understand what he was saying.” and now I’m a Nazi. 🙄

            I agree the reporter sucks, marblemouth sucks, Nazis suck, but holy shit people need to calm down.

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          Nope, that’s not going to work on me. I used to be a centrist, I know the game and I am not going to be taken in by you pretending to be an impassive third party when im reality, you support and defend a hate group that wants to kill anyone different from them.

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              Gladly:

              You’re in here because you have befriended a bunch of right wingers, probably on their Discord even though they were banned from the platform years ago. You heard the rumors of how hateful and bigoted they are, but when you went to see what all the hullabaloo was all about, they were actually welcoming to you. Chill…Perhaps even kind. And their opposition to the lockdowns made sense, so you shacked up with them politically.

              Cut to you seeing leftfam frothing at the mouth over blatant death threats you’ve become conditioned to automatically dismiss as overblown, because you know these people, and they wouldn’t hurt you (snrrk), so a Trump supporter saying live on TV “kill 'em all” and a reporter agreeing with him must not be just that. It has to be a miscommunication, or the reporter didn’t hear even though the guy said it twice, or any number of dumbass excuses you’ve already conjured up to protect your “friends”.

              Wake the fuck up, dumbass: the right wing are NOT your friends, they are not reasonable or principled or have your best interests at heart. They are petty, vindictive, immature and champing at the bit to get back at the left for the lockdowns, and that’s why they are openly aggressive now. You are not “one of the good ones”. They are not going to spare you either.

              They want to kill anyone who doesn’t agree with them or lives the way they want you to. They overturned Roe vs. Wade which has already killed and maimed people. Ron Desantis is putting out campaign ads bragging about the anti-LGBTQ laws he got passed in Florida, with fucking soldiers goose-stepping toward Nazi symbols. And now this.

              They are openly saying they want to kill anyone who is different from them, and you are defending them.

              You are a despicable piece of shit.

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                From the quick scan of it I can tell you’ve made many incorrect assumptions about me and my life. Like waaaaaaaay the fuck off base and ended it by calling me a piece of shit, but I don’t need to explain myself to you so fuck off, pal.

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                  Ladies and gentlemen, that is what a centrist really looks like ^^

                  And below, you can see what a centrist blatantly lying to your face looks like:

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                    Nah, I’m actually really left leaning, I just don’t have my head my ass about it.