Palestinian health officials say at least 70 people killed in the Al-Maghazi refugee camp, amid reports of a new peace bid by Egypt

Medics have now said that an Israeli airstrike in Khan Younis in southern Gaza killed 23 people, bringing total Palestinian fatalities overnight to more than 100, Reuters reports.

  • unwellsnail@sopuli.xyz
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    11 months ago

    we have no way of knowing the full true picture of why these civilians are dying

    Let me clear this one up for you, they’re dying because Israel is killing them.

    • fosforus@sopuli.xyz
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      11 months ago

      Nope.

      1. Are they civilians or Hamas fighters?

      2. If they are civilians, are they being used as human shields?

      3. Is Hamas killing them and reporting them as killed by IDF?

      4. Are the figures correct?

      Not clear at all, as you can see.

      • unwellsnail@sopuli.xyz
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        11 months ago

        No, this is created obfuscation in an attempt to justify what’s happening. Ask yourself, if Isreal wasn’t continuing this onslaught, would these people be dying? That’s the clarity.

        • fosforus@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          11 months ago

          If Hamas hadn’t attacked on Oct 7, would these people have died? No, they wouldn’t.

          If Hamas surrendered, would these people continue to die? No, they wouldn’t.

          • unwellsnail@sopuli.xyz
            11·
            11 months ago

            If Israel hadn’t blockaded Gaza for a decade and a half, or occupied Palestine for 75 years, or or or. We can play this game for eternity, or look at the reality that people, actual people not abstract arguments, are dying. And that needs to stop.

            • fosforus@sopuli.xyz
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              11 months ago

              actual people not abstract arguments, are dying. And that needs to stop.

              I agree on that. What I don’t understand is why it’s considered more Israel’s than Hamas’s responsibility to stop the war.

              • unwellsnail@sopuli.xyz
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                11 months ago

                Because Israel is the occupying force with a full military and international backing currently bombing a captive population compromised mostly of children. Why is that hard to understand?

                • fosforus@sopuli.xyz
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                  11 months ago

                  They are there to fight against a terrorist group who attack them on a constant basis, and they would stop their war immediately if said terrorist group surrendered. Population mostly comprised of children is not their fault, it has come about from one of the highest birth rates in the world. Israel is the occupying force in very much the same way as Allies were an occupying force in Germany in 1945. They are occupying the area to destroy an extremely harmful entity.

                  Are these things also hard to understand?