If there’s no genetic advantage for men, why did Chess have separate divisions?
The ACTUAL answer is misogyny. Chess was(and still is tbh) a very misogynistic “sport” back in the day, and many male professional chess players refused to play against women, and the ones that did play against them were often crude. To try and get more women interested in chess, women only divisions were created. It has literally nothing to do with genetic advantages.
I can’t speak for chess, but in gaming where there’s similarly no sex advantage, female gamers are rarely seen at the higher levels because the environment is very hostile towards them. Creating a separate women’s league would alleviate this to some degree and encourage more women to actually try to reach for the top.
That our society didn’t even let women take part in marathons at one point and the first time someone did that was by just taking part without making clear that they’re a woman and they’ll be themselves taking part in it. You can draw your conclusion from that
If there’s no difference in sports or shit with men and women, shouldn’t we just have one division?
I would think so, yes. I’m no expert on either lol.
If a sport that doesn’t depend on physicality still has separate divisions ( literally chess) what does that mean to you?
What is it supposed to mean? I have no idea why it’s like that. Here’s a relevant wikipedia article. I don’t know why you’re asking me this lmao, but I didn’t come here for an argument. I made a joke. Peace out ✌️
Ok, so if there’s no difference between men and women, shouldn’t a top tier woman’s chess player be able to play a top tier men’s chess player and win some games?
There’s no scenario where a top tier woman’s player beats Magnus Carlsen if he’s trying to win.
So if Magnus undergoes HRT and is now a female, and he starts competing against other women (which is actually banned by FIDE) would it be an even playing field? Or would Magnus stomp.thrm because he’s actually that much better?
Those are the situations that these rules need to consider.
I don’t understand why you think I’m a misogynist. I want women to compete against each other on an even playing field. Fuck me right?
Yes?
If there’s no genetic advantage for men, why did Chess have separate divisions?
You must be a troll account because a human capable of literacy asking that question honestly is beyond comprehension.
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I’m not. Go ahead and answer the question.
The ACTUAL answer is misogyny. Chess was(and still is tbh) a very misogynistic “sport” back in the day, and many male professional chess players refused to play against women, and the ones that did play against them were often crude. To try and get more women interested in chess, women only divisions were created. It has literally nothing to do with genetic advantages.
Lol ok. So the top classical femalechess player has an elo of 2628. The top male is 2830. That’s a huge difference.
Statistics(link).
I can’t speak for chess, but in gaming where there’s similarly no sex advantage, female gamers are rarely seen at the higher levels because the environment is very hostile towards them. Creating a separate women’s league would alleviate this to some degree and encourage more women to actually try to reach for the top.
So in esports there are also distinct female divisions. I haven’t seen a female team play a male team in Dota2, CS, LoL, any fighting games, etc.
Because the field is known to be hostile to women and filled with creepy incels? Have you SEEN how they act anytime a “female gamer” pops up?
So it’s not because of skill differences? Very weird…
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I’m confused, what are you saying?
So the comment chain reference sports having different divisions for men and women.
These generally depend on a physical difference between men and woman.
Why would a sport which removed all physicality, still have separate divisions?
I dunno, why?
If there’s no difference in sports or shit with men and women, shouldn’t we just have one division?
If a sport that doesn’t depend on physicality still has separate divisions ( literally chess) what does that mean to you?
That our society didn’t even let women take part in marathons at one point and the first time someone did that was by just taking part without making clear that they’re a woman and they’ll be themselves taking part in it. You can draw your conclusion from that
Ok let’s look at marathons.
Boston Marathon. Top woman finished in 2:21:38. That would have been 38th in males times. The top male time was 2:05:54.
There’s a difference.
I would think so, yes. I’m no expert on either lol.
What is it supposed to mean? I have no idea why it’s like that. Here’s a relevant wikipedia article. I don’t know why you’re asking me this lmao, but I didn’t come here for an argument. I made a joke. Peace out ✌️
Ok, so if there’s no difference between men and women, shouldn’t a top tier woman’s chess player be able to play a top tier men’s chess player and win some games?
There’s no scenario where a top tier woman’s player beats Magnus Carlsen if he’s trying to win.
Cool it down on the thinly veiled misogyny
So if Magnus undergoes HRT and is now a female, and he starts competing against other women (which is actually banned by FIDE) would it be an even playing field? Or would Magnus stomp.thrm because he’s actually that much better?
Those are the situations that these rules need to consider.
I don’t understand why you think I’m a misogynist. I want women to compete against each other on an even playing field. Fuck me right?