I agree that 95% of the reason is just men being uncomfortable with women having success in “their” space when it involves their sexuality, but I can also sympathize with being unable to find a mid-sized chill stream to watch because so many of them are half-nude ASMR streams or body painting. It’s like how YouTube has so much trashy corporate garbage protmoted in its algorithm, it’s just exhausting to wade through sometimes.
The way incentives are currently set up on both sites just happen to prioritize those types of content though, so it’s pointless to get mad at the creators as if they’re doing something wrong. Twitch is still a step above YouTube in this aspect as well, since at least you can’t AI generate trash content that gets uploaded 100+ times daily on a livestream. You’re at least getting real people.
I see two streams where the face cam looks like it is a major part of the stream and I am pretty sure that was just “let’s make a thumbnail”. One workout stream which was a pretty standard gym attire. The only risque thing I found was one “Bodypaint Xmas (heart emoticon) !socials” and said body paint was good enough that I genuinely had to do a triple take to figure out she was not wearing a shirt. Oh, and a sumo wrestling channel that I followed because holy shit that is awesome.
Like most things: Your algorithm based recommendations mostly say a lot about you. Assuming you actually have a front page that looks like you left TBS on all day: Maybe stop watching the titty streams if you don’t want to see more titty streams?
Their recommendation algorithm doesn’t care what you watch, it cares what other people who watch the same streamers as you watch. So if I watch a lot of shroud, I notice more titty streamers popping up in my recommendations because shroud viewers are more likely to watch titty streams.
More than anything it’s annoying. I come to twitch for gaming content. I really don’t appreciate my recommended tab needing to be censored. It’s not taking away viewers, but it is making the experience on the platform worse for many.
I still stand by not needing to actually censor something tamer than going to a public pool but…
That is literally what the policy changes were. Tag content that maybe shouldn’t be on the front page of a site where over 50% of users are 16-44. And everyone lost their minds and killed it.
And I am not familiar with shroud’s content. I know back in the day he was a “god gamer” but not sure what he streams these days. For what it is worth, after I “just couldn’t” with moistcritikal anymore, my youtube recommendations cleared themselves right up. Because, shockingly, watching someone who Reacts to everything means you tend to get the same trash he is Reacting to in your feed.
Most of my twitch follows are weird channels (like watching otters play in a pool) or O(100) streams like Remap. But I’ll tune into the occasional Pokimane or Disguised Toast stream and my front page is still pretty much gaming.
If I’m in public browsing through twitch, when that stuff pops up, it’s sure not looking like a public pool. 99% of the time it’s a woman with the bottom of the camera cutting off her nipples and a ton of cleavage right in your face. I have NSFW blurring turned on for every other service, because who would have known, people don’t want to see that stuff in public.
Everyone lost their mind because the problem got 100x worse the moment twitch loosened the guidelines, and there’s no way they could have subjectively moderated all of it.
Shroud is still 100% gaming. That doesn’t matter though, because as a large streamer, there’s a lot of overlap with the teenagers watching gaming content and titty streamers.
When I don’t watch any big streamers/fps streamers for a week or two the recommendations are almost always gone, except for the one I clicked on once out of genuine curiosity.
Just checked the Just Chatting tab. With five streams per row
Victoria (930 viewerrs) is “topless meta” at the top
Five rows in we have “melina” at 5.6k viewers with what looks like a splash screen of her in a lacy top. Maybe it is lingerie, maybe it is just a camiosole. A lot of leg is showing, but that is the kind of shit you see on a bus.
Eight rows in we have my big beefy sumo boys. I will admit, I tend to not see man ass in a thong in my every day life but I don’t think people mind.
Also eight rows in we have some hot pussy action with an adorable kittens stream
And at 46 rows I gave up because that seemed high but scrolling back it was at least in the 30s. The rest are just people podcasting, Reacting to other content, or whatever
And for funs, I checked the Beauty & Body Art tab. One person is getting a haircut, one dude (?) is face painting, and someone feminine looking looks like they are doing actual body paint but I can’t tell if they are doing pasties or what.
So of forty-ish rows I see three things that I would give a second take if I saw it on the street. Big beefy sumo boys, cute little kitties, and a woman in a tubetop.
I’ve noticed that softcore stuff has its prime-time, and it’s about late night in america - mid-late morning for me. Your comment was about 3 hours before I’m typing this, so it was definitely not a prime time.
It wouldn’t be on the front page anymore after the recent policy change, but if you go to “just chatting” it auto-sorts by view count, which is where most of that content is.
This is exactly it. Insecure CHUDS hate that female sexuality has power over them so they seek to assert cultural control over it. It’s the same reason repressed assholes all over the world want to tell women what to wear and how to act.
I agree that 95% of the reason is just men being uncomfortable with women having success in “their” space
You ever watched those camgirl streams? They’re not having success in “men” space. Some of them literally coming straight from porn to expand audience. If twitch is about gaming, how forty minute breaks “gone to change bikini” is gaming? I keep getting recommended streams like that again and again even though I keep pressing “not interested”, sometimes I click on these streams and go straight to clips to see whether that person does anything but being naked, and recently I found one of the most popular clips from one of those channels that was with a girl in a public place being half naked and some little child asking her “are you a camgirl?” At least that was fun.
Sexual content is not the only thing that taints twitch. Various “political analysis” trash streams are also there. This is just not appropriate for a gaming platform. And twitch was like specifically created and stemed off from justintv to be a gaming platform.
I agree that 95% of the reason is just men being uncomfortable with women having success
back to your argument. There are thousands of women streaming on twitch who are actual gamers or do gaming related stuff. Damn, there’s even ex-pornstar Sasha Grey who’s just actually gaming. There’s absolutely zero issues with girls on the platform, the issue is complete derailement of the platform with softporn content (and shitty politics, but nobody cares about that).
Twitch is no longer a gaming only platform. It went full circle back to being an everything streaming site. People chat, people draw, people code, people make stuff with their hands. It’s been that way for awhile.
A lot of the most popular streamers regularly have long gaps with the camera pointing at three empty chair so don’t act like having a brief break is crime of the century, Sips is away for about fifteen minutes an hour making tea or whatever he does - and that’s only real streamers, someone like xqc will watch an entire someone else’s content while out the room then come in and eat silently while he watches another whole someone else’s content.
I know a lot of people here will never be able to accept it but a lot of the bikini streamers are actually really interesting conversationalists too, like she’s not someone I watch often but amouranth ripping the trolls can genuinely be the funniest thing I see in a day - she and many others are generally interesting, intelligent, and insightful – and no before people imply it just because they have boobs doesn’t mean they can’t be smart.
Compared to Charlie, xqc, and most the popular streamers they put a lot more effort into their streams. Depending who you watch and what your tastes are they can make great background streams, I’ve discovered a lot of great music certainly more than any local radio station.
It’s funny to me seeing people making a show of saying they’d never watch such content then acting like they know exactly what it’s like - what they mean is they assume anything with an attractive woman is terrible because attractive women are nothing but dumb sex objects.
If you want Charlie to be able to tell dirty jokes, make god slap, talk about wild internet drama, and play violent video games without getting censored then don’t side with the over boiled morality police, support the troops on the vanguard in the struggle for artistic liberty – the bikini hulahoop girls are fighting for your freedom.
I agree that 95% of the reason is just men being uncomfortable with women having success in “their” space when it involves their sexuality, but I can also sympathize with being unable to find a mid-sized chill stream to watch because so many of them are half-nude ASMR streams or body painting. It’s like how YouTube has so much trashy corporate garbage protmoted in its algorithm, it’s just exhausting to wade through sometimes.
The way incentives are currently set up on both sites just happen to prioritize those types of content though, so it’s pointless to get mad at the creators as if they’re doing something wrong. Twitch is still a step above YouTube in this aspect as well, since at least you can’t AI generate trash content that gets uploaded 100+ times daily on a livestream. You’re at least getting real people.
I just loaded up the front page of twitch.
I see two streams where the face cam looks like it is a major part of the stream and I am pretty sure that was just “let’s make a thumbnail”. One workout stream which was a pretty standard gym attire. The only risque thing I found was one “Bodypaint Xmas (heart emoticon) !socials” and said body paint was good enough that I genuinely had to do a triple take to figure out she was not wearing a shirt. Oh, and a sumo wrestling channel that I followed because holy shit that is awesome.
Like most things: Your algorithm based recommendations mostly say a lot about you. Assuming you actually have a front page that looks like you left TBS on all day: Maybe stop watching the titty streams if you don’t want to see more titty streams?
Their recommendation algorithm doesn’t care what you watch, it cares what other people who watch the same streamers as you watch. So if I watch a lot of shroud, I notice more titty streamers popping up in my recommendations because shroud viewers are more likely to watch titty streams.
More than anything it’s annoying. I come to twitch for gaming content. I really don’t appreciate my recommended tab needing to be censored. It’s not taking away viewers, but it is making the experience on the platform worse for many.
I still stand by not needing to actually censor something tamer than going to a public pool but…
That is literally what the policy changes were. Tag content that maybe shouldn’t be on the front page of a site where over 50% of users are 16-44. And everyone lost their minds and killed it.
And I am not familiar with shroud’s content. I know back in the day he was a “god gamer” but not sure what he streams these days. For what it is worth, after I “just couldn’t” with moistcritikal anymore, my youtube recommendations cleared themselves right up. Because, shockingly, watching someone who Reacts to everything means you tend to get the same trash he is Reacting to in your feed.
Most of my twitch follows are weird channels (like watching otters play in a pool) or O(100) streams like Remap. But I’ll tune into the occasional Pokimane or Disguised Toast stream and my front page is still pretty much gaming.
If I’m in public browsing through twitch, when that stuff pops up, it’s sure not looking like a public pool. 99% of the time it’s a woman with the bottom of the camera cutting off her nipples and a ton of cleavage right in your face. I have NSFW blurring turned on for every other service, because who would have known, people don’t want to see that stuff in public.
Everyone lost their mind because the problem got 100x worse the moment twitch loosened the guidelines, and there’s no way they could have subjectively moderated all of it.
Shroud is still 100% gaming. That doesn’t matter though, because as a large streamer, there’s a lot of overlap with the teenagers watching gaming content and titty streamers.
When I don’t watch any big streamers/fps streamers for a week or two the recommendations are almost always gone, except for the one I clicked on once out of genuine curiosity.
Just checked the Just Chatting tab. With five streams per row
And for funs, I checked the Beauty & Body Art tab. One person is getting a haircut, one dude (?) is face painting, and someone feminine looking looks like they are doing actual body paint but I can’t tell if they are doing pasties or what.
So of forty-ish rows I see three things that I would give a second take if I saw it on the street. Big beefy sumo boys, cute little kitties, and a woman in a tubetop.
I’ve noticed that softcore stuff has its prime-time, and it’s about late night in america - mid-late morning for me. Your comment was about 3 hours before I’m typing this, so it was definitely not a prime time.
We go to very different pools I guess.
It wouldn’t be on the front page anymore after the recent policy change, but if you go to “just chatting” it auto-sorts by view count, which is where most of that content is.
This is exactly it. Insecure CHUDS hate that female sexuality has power over them so they seek to assert cultural control over it. It’s the same reason repressed assholes all over the world want to tell women what to wear and how to act.
You ever watched those camgirl streams? They’re not having success in “men” space. Some of them literally coming straight from porn to expand audience. If twitch is about gaming, how forty minute breaks “gone to change bikini” is gaming? I keep getting recommended streams like that again and again even though I keep pressing “not interested”, sometimes I click on these streams and go straight to clips to see whether that person does anything but being naked, and recently I found one of the most popular clips from one of those channels that was with a girl in a public place being half naked and some little child asking her “are you a camgirl?” At least that was fun.
Sexual content is not the only thing that taints twitch. Various “political analysis” trash streams are also there. This is just not appropriate for a gaming platform. And twitch was like specifically created and stemed off from justintv to be a gaming platform.
back to your argument. There are thousands of women streaming on twitch who are actual gamers or do gaming related stuff. Damn, there’s even ex-pornstar Sasha Grey who’s just actually gaming. There’s absolutely zero issues with girls on the platform, the issue is complete derailement of the platform with softporn content (and shitty politics, but nobody cares about that).
Twitch is no longer a gaming only platform. It went full circle back to being an everything streaming site. People chat, people draw, people code, people make stuff with their hands. It’s been that way for awhile.
A lot of the most popular streamers regularly have long gaps with the camera pointing at three empty chair so don’t act like having a brief break is crime of the century, Sips is away for about fifteen minutes an hour making tea or whatever he does - and that’s only real streamers, someone like xqc will watch an entire someone else’s content while out the room then come in and eat silently while he watches another whole someone else’s content.
I know a lot of people here will never be able to accept it but a lot of the bikini streamers are actually really interesting conversationalists too, like she’s not someone I watch often but amouranth ripping the trolls can genuinely be the funniest thing I see in a day - she and many others are generally interesting, intelligent, and insightful – and no before people imply it just because they have boobs doesn’t mean they can’t be smart.
Compared to Charlie, xqc, and most the popular streamers they put a lot more effort into their streams. Depending who you watch and what your tastes are they can make great background streams, I’ve discovered a lot of great music certainly more than any local radio station.
It’s funny to me seeing people making a show of saying they’d never watch such content then acting like they know exactly what it’s like - what they mean is they assume anything with an attractive woman is terrible because attractive women are nothing but dumb sex objects.
If you want Charlie to be able to tell dirty jokes, make god slap, talk about wild internet drama, and play violent video games without getting censored then don’t side with the over boiled morality police, support the troops on the vanguard in the struggle for artistic liberty – the bikini hulahoop girls are fighting for your freedom.