Comparison left vs right for a craftsman who doesnt know which one he should buy:

  • l/r same bed size

  • r lower bed for way easier loading/unloading

  • r less likely to crash

  • r less fuel consumption and costs

  • r less expensive to repair

  • r easy to park

  • r easy to get around in narrow places like crowded construction sites or towns

  • r not participating in road arms race

  • l You get taken serious by your fellow carbrained americans because ““trucks”” are normalized and small handy cars are ridiculed.

So unless you are a fragile piece of human, choose the right one.

  • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Great, but carry capacity and towing capacity aren’t the same thing. And it doesn’t matter if I don’t need to tow something everyday, even if I need to tow something monthly or even yearly the one on the right just can’t do it. Also from my very brief searching it seems like a KEI truck absolutely does not have a capacity of 2200lbs, more like 800-1500lbs. I will agree though, if you just need a work vehicle and a truck bed then the KEI truck is probably fine. If you need to tow, it absolutely is not.

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      1 year ago

      Normally, you’d be right. If you need towing capacity, you need it. However, truck on the left is the MOST POPULAR CAR IN USA. 95% of people living there don’t need anything other than proverbial small dick compensation.

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        1 year ago

        I’m not defending the truck on the left, just stating a reason you may need more than just the one on the right. I drive a “compact truck” a Hyundai Santa Cruz because it was the best blend of affordability, usefulness, comfort, ease of use in a city, and towing capacity. It is 4 door, easily fits 4 adults comfortably, easily tows my small boat (has a 5000lb capacity), and I have plenty of room in the bed for small projects a home owner would need to do. All while being based on a smaller SUV and having a 2.8l V4. I would definitely agree that the majority of truck owners have far more than they need, but the KEI truck is extreme on the other side.

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        1 year ago

        I mean, I wouldn’t but that thing still has to get moved somehow. That truck still has to be available somehow.

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            1 year ago

            I don’t think the big family that is going on their once or maybe twice a year camping trip with their large trailer is going to rent a truck for their vacation. But, yes that’s a possibility.

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              1 year ago

              I mean if our culture wasn’t so car centric and centered around instant gratification that wouldn’t be an issue, it’s not too hard to rent a car at all, especially if you’ve been planning a year long trip. Not trying to soapbox here, though, I’m very reliant on my car too and see doing all that as an inconvenience, but I realize how absurd it is to feel that way.

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                1 year ago

                You’re right, but I would add that we need more vacation days. People want to squeeze out as much vacation time as possible. And of course there are always exceptions. For instance my grandparents owned a trailer that they would only use during the summer. They owned a truck to be able to tow it, but legitimately moved it only a couple of times a year but also for months at a time. The bill to rent a truck for months would be outrageous. The other option I guess would be to rent a truck for the drive to move it around and then swap for a car when they get there. Or rent a truck and have the other person follow along in a smaller car that they own. It’s all a lot of hassle for people that rarely drive and rarely tow.

                Personally I’m a huge fan of these small trucks coming out. The Hyundai Santa Cruz and the Ford Maverick are nice balances imo. Yet they still can’t tow a large camper.

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                  1 year ago

                  You are definitely right about vacation days; I guess I never really consider that people would be in their trailer for months at a time, so that’s a good point. But it’s not like people in other countries don’t ever go on vacation, so I wonder what their planning looks like? Pointing to cars is just one thing but I think the frustrating thing is just the extreme excessive consumption habits we have in the US.

                  As an aside I’d be really curious to see breakdowns of like, all of the big truck owners and how often they use their trucks for towing, work, etc.

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                    1 year ago

                    But it’s not like people in other countries don’t ever go on vacation, so I wonder what their planning looks like?

                    Road trips aren’t as common in places with robust public transit. I would bet that road trips and trailer camping are probably the biggest here in America.

                    Pointing to cars is just one thing but I think the frustrating thing is just the extreme excessive consumption habits we have in the US.

                    I absolutely agree with this. But there is a middle ground between the giant truck and the KEI truck. Especially when I use my small truck more as a partner vehicle than anything. A tiny KEI truck just would not fit the bill for 4 adults to ride in. But I also don’t need the giant truck.

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                    1 year ago

                    The solution in other countries:

                    Carry a lighter trailer, you don’t need to tow a whole house with you.

                    Here in Germany your usual driver’s licence (costing around 3k nowadays, btw) only allows you to drive vehicles rated to max 3500kg and towing up to 750kg. Anything else requires another (also expensive) licence.

                    Want to tow up to 3500kg? That will be mandatory drivers classes and a driving exam. Total cost about 1k. Want to drive a vehicle rated over 3500kg? That requires a truck licence, so more drivers classes, a medical, a theory and a practical exam. Total cost would be around 5k I guess, also you get to renew it every 5 years.