• NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Just to explain: Their demands are mainly loosening the blockade (which is a humanitarian crisis in its own right) and freeing hostages Palestinian detainees.

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        9 months ago

        They don’t want to kill all Jews. They want the expulsion of all Jews from Israel/Palestine. At least according to their original manifesto, they’ve changed it to remove this part to be fair.

        It can be argued that the Israeli government wants the same thing for the Palestinians.

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          9 months ago

          “rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea” … “the Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them.”

          Hamas’ 1988 charter

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            9 months ago

            Thanks I was too lazy to find the exact citation.

            Do you see the difference between what you said and their charter ? What Hamas wants is awful enough, no need to exaggerate.

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              9 months ago

              OP is misleading. Hamas has a new 2017 charter, which has change a lot. As far as I can remember, they had alterd their demand/charter, where the main clause is to have the Israel/Palestine border to be as of 1967.

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                    9 months ago

                    Well yes ? How else would you want to do this. I just gave you an example of a senior Hamas officer saying kill all Jews and Hamas saying they do not agree.

                    I have no doubt Hamas leadership is a bunch of genocidal maniacs but their official stance has been in the past the forceful displacement and nowadays it’s the return to pre 1967 borders. They are ready to admit to the existence of Israel, not by pleasure mind you, but their official stance nowadays is that they are partially open to a two state solution if the right to return is put in place.

                    This might be a bunch of lies, but it is their official position.