Hello everyone,
The purpose of this post is to provide a general overview of where GME investors are in terms of social media, as of December 2023.
In terms of social media it is hard to accurately describe the current situation without also including some parts relevant to BBBYQ investors, there is some overlap.
This post is in some ways a followup to this post I made in June 2023 shortly after this Lemmy instance was born.
TLDR of this post: The Energy of the community of investors cannot be contained. It does not belong to anyone or any platform. When attempts are made by some entity (e.g. Reddit) to hold on to that Energy for themselves, it slips away and finds itself somewhere else.
Brief overview of some relevant events pertaining to Reddit:
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pre January 2021 - the social media situation relevant to GME investors in the original “normal state”. There did not exist much of a GME investor community at all. The part that did exist was in r/wallstreetbets. There was undeniably a powerful Energy and momentum surrounding the GME situation. This situation, this Energy, caused an enormous spike in growth of r/wallstreetbets
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after January 2021 - several different subreddits popped up for GME investors. r/superstonk emerged as the preeminent GME investor subreddit and community on the internet, and largely remained that way until early 2023. During that period of time, Superstonk was home of “the Energy”. The Energy had/has a spirit of its own, and is always changing and adapting and moving around.
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eventually, for reasons, the r/DRSyourGME subreddit was created. Compared with superstonk this was a very small subreddit. It harbored some small amount of the original genuine Energy. In April 2023, a DD was posted to r/DRSyourGME, commonly referred to the Heatlamp DD or Heatlamp theory, also referred to as the DSPP Revelations. The information in that post was being actively censored in superstonk, for some reason. People tried to post it in superstonk, and it became a great big uncomfortable and embarrassing episode of censorship. Because of the efforts to censor and contain it, there was an explosion of growth in r/DRSyourGME.
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not too long later (June), Reddit permanently banned that subreddit.
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around this time, a different subreddit, r/theppshow, which was primarily about the topic of the Bed Bath & Beyond bankruptcy, was growing. There was already the r/BBBY subreddit, but the BBBY subreddit lacked most of the essence of The Energy. r/theppshow carried that essence, it had some of The Energy. Simply, there was enthusiasm and excitement there, for whatever reason. One big contributing factor might have been the novelty and value of the new medium that was the live show on YouTube. This new medium, which wasn’t really well utilized up to this point by GME or BBBYQ investors, invigorated discussion, and it gave people a platform to socialize over their common interests in the subject matter. Eventually, Pulte started giving attention to that subreddit, and in late July came on to the show. This attention from Pulte helped fuel further growth into that subreddit and community. What eventually started happening was that this subreddit started to become the new home of “The Energy”. Reminiscent, perhaps, the same way that it happened to the r/DRSyourGME subreddit. Conversations that were controlled and contained and censored in superstonk, the predominant subreddit of the “GME Energy”, suddenly were free and open and fun again. Even though it was predominantly a subreddit devoted to the BBBYQ bankruptcy situation, many curious GME shareholders wanted to participate in that conversation. Many of the BBBYQ shareholders are also GME shareholders, many of them originally from GME.
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But it wasn’t to last. In late November 2023, Reddit banned r/theppshow. Some people, familiar with the banning of r/DRSyourGME, saw this coming months in advance.
To summarize that series of events: There once was a great Energy, a great GME Energy. Reddit was the original birthplace of this Energy, and to this day is still home to a large amount of it. But, over these last few years, what we have witnessed on Reddit have been numerous cases of censorship and attempted information containment. Some people, or entities, or agendas, it seems, have an interest in trying to control The Energy, to treat it as if it belongs to them. But it doesn’t. The Energy belongs to nobody, and it cannot be contained. The harder that anyone tries to contain or control or capture the Energy for themselves, the faster it will slip from their hands. The Energy comes from all of us, it is the sum total of the attention, time, energy, money, and excitement, that comes from each and every individual person that is contributing to it.
Because of attempts made, by Reddit, to be the sole keepers of The Energy, it slips through their hands and finds a new home in new places.
December 2023
So here we are. Where is this Energy now?
While much of it is still found in various places on Reddit, including superstonk, significant amounts of it are found in new places. Here we are, for example, on Lemmy / in the fediverse.
The fediverse is a currently small, but promising platform, and is but one home for the Energy.
In a certain practical sense, the ongoing information sharing, the Energy, has found itself in a new decentralized form. “Decentralized” in the sense that it is not all within the confines of superstonk or Reddit at all, the way it once was in a different time.
- We have this Lemmy instance, and the larger fediverse that it connects to.
- We have, for example, the DRSyourGME Public Discord. There are also numerous other community discords that may be worthwhile, e.g. the Loopring Discord
- There are numerous subreddits of various sizes that have worthwhile content.
- Recently, to my surprise, partially coinciding with the banning of r/theppshow subreddit, but also occurring on its own, X (formerly Twitter) is emerging as a new and relevant location for GME investors (and BBBYQ investors) due to the existence of X Spaces. X Spaces have emerged as a relevant social location, providing a supply to an evidently existing demand for such interaction. On any given day, there might be 500 or a thousand people listening to a live conversation about GME or BBBYQ or other related topics of conversation. On December 6, for example, GME earnings date, nearly 10 thousand people tuned in to hear the live discussion hosted on X by community participants.
Compared with where we were 1 year ago, the existence of all of these worthwhile areas that are not superstonk is giving a new form and new life to the way that The Energy manifests itself, and the truth of our situation now has new avenues for being discussed, a new home where it can be free and co-mingle with other information.
It is impossible to know for sure how things will continue to evolve, but I tend to believe that the greater degree of decentralization of information, the greater the freedom of truth that will exist.
There is also a ppshow venue on Lemmy… !theppshow@lemmy.world
An account here should also work there.
As the Energy (named by @jersan) has migrated between social media platforms, various moderators have tried to control and censor it. How can we prevent this? Open source software relies on The Tentacles of Evil test. This says that even if the developer turns evil or gets bought out, then their software must still remain open source.
Imagine a future whether the moderation of this community turns evil. Let’s preemptively break our own containment by linking in the sidebar to related communities controlled by independent parties (such as !theppshow@lemmy.world as @SubDRSive mentioned). If the links are removed, then they are the canaries in the coal mine, showing that this community is compromised. If the links remain, then the Energy can move freely.
I would be glad to add something like the lemmyverse.net tool in the community sidebar (we already go over using it in the Apes Guide to Lemmy, but as another way to draw attention to it) but I’m not sold on including other communities in that sidebar.
I see the DRSyourGME community to be mostly about DRSing GME and the WhyDRS community as pro DRS in general.
There are already a couple of BBBY friendly communities on this instance which people have started, and people could always start more. It’s those communities which I would more encourage to link to PPshow on Lemmy.world.
What do you think? Does this make sense, or is it too in line with how subreddit crosslinking and community building works on Reddit?
The check and balance on abuse of moderation is the right to migrate to a different community –– “voting with your feet.” Consider the meme “Apes during the last Great Ape Migration to Superstonk” (and many other memes). r/superstonk has infringed on this right by censoring references to Lemmy. DRSGME / WhyDRS has strengthened this right by using open source software, federating with other servers, and providing backups to certain users. Another way to strengthen the right to migration is to link to a related but credibly independent community. Some subreddits link to related subreddits in the sidebar. Judging from this comment by @jersan, theppshow community may or may not be sufficiently similar or sufficiently active. Can you think of a related community independent of the DRS Team? On Lemmy, Reddit, Twitter, or any platform.
A related community independent of our team? Yes, many
A related community independent of our team and which is also independent of some privately run entity like Reddit or Twitter? No, I do not know of any, but I’d certainly be interested to support them.
I do know of a couple of other GME communities on lemmy.world or lemmy.ca, I do not know off hand of any other DRS focused communities.
How about exchanging links with a GameStop-related community on a different Lemmy server? (Even if there is no other community specifically focused on DRS.) This could be a kind of social federation between related communities –– in addition to the baseline technological federation built into Lemmy.
Some good thoughts. the good news is, is that Lemmy and the fediverse are kind of, at least to some degree, “for-profit proof”. The software of the fediverse was largely created through ideological motivation and not the interest of profits. those builders probably won’t stop building. new builders of open source software can pick up where others left off. and so on. i think lemmy and the fediverse is pretty safe in that regard, it would be pretty hard to corrupt it.
as for that pp show lemmy community, i wouldn’t put too much stock in to it, at least not at this time. it doesn’t receive much attention or endorsement from the show’s namesake individual nor any of the regulars that go on the show, it’s kind of an afterthought that most of them seem to have largely forgotten about. also the person who set it up, hey_ross, initially set it up as a sort of placeholder, so that the others could come take over, but that never happened. now, hey_ross appears to be distancing himself from the pp show community, so it’s looking like this one is petering out.
I otherwise agree with what I believe to be what you’re describing, to be supportive in general of community interconnectedness.
Very true! I hope they decide to run their own instance sometime. lemmy.world is gigantic, and only going to grow larger. I think operating as a community on a massive instance like that is an improvement over Reddit, but not taking full advantage of this technology.
I say that without knowing too much about the lemmy.world governance structure. Maybe they are better than I think!
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !theppshow@lemmy.world
Amended, thank you.