“I voted for a literal fascist to save the Republic” sounds a lot more like you’re scared that taxes will go up by 2%. Whether you worship him like the drooling knuckledraggers with Trump flags is immaterial. It doesn’t make you any less of a fucking fascist.
It makes no sense that you’re trying to mix things that have nothing to do with my comment. What you’re doing just affirms my statement that: you are willing to label anyone who disagrees as fascist and you are scared to participate in a productive conversation because you do not know how to make logical points which relate to what I have just said.
“I don’t think you know the actual meaning of fascism.”
This “you don’t know what fascism is” thing is getting so old. It’s ultra-patriotism. Nation before self. USA has had a fascist streak forever. Even pre-WW2 and even post-WW2 we had fascist sympathizers.
None of this is new. MAGA is not new. Fascism is not complicated.
What did Mussolini want? Italy first. What did Hitler want? Germany first. What did the Japanese junta want? Japan first. What did the British, French, US etc want? Preservation of the balance of power. No one country first. NOBODY first. Trade and negotiation and treaties between equals instead.
What is so hard to understand about any of this? It’s really not hard. What does Putin want? Russia first. What does Xi Jinping want? China first. What do the US, UK, France etc want? The balance of power, no one country first. Instead trade and negotiation and treaties between equals.
That simply speaks to the echo-chamber you’re in; I see criticism of Biden all the time. But remember, your words were, “worship.” The sheer cultism level of MAGA, and his likely nomination as GOPs pick again is leaps-and-bounds above anything Biden has. Biden wasn’t my first pick and I have my grievances of him as well.
How is this Lemmy instance representative of all leftists and not a very select subset? Hell there are subs and communities within the leftist spectrum that completely differ.
You said people worship both sides, but where is the worship comparable to superimposing Trump onto Rambo and Jesus Christ routinely?
You said, “Biden receives no criticism from his own side” yet here I am within this Lemmy instance as a progressive-leftist saying that he’s too old and not progressive enough, and wasn’t even my 3rd pick in the Democratic primaries. This sentiment is wide.
In February, 58% of Democrats supported the nomination of someone other than Biden; this is less than Republicans for Trump…
And again you are wrong. This time on the concept of free speech.
Free speech just means government can’t pass laws restricting speech. Does not mean you do not suffer consequences from a private party. To the effect a corporation banning you for your speech. Being removed from a social media site due to your comments. None of that is infringing on your free speech since there are no governmental restrictions on most things said/done. Just a private party wanting no part of the content the other party is providing.
Freedom of speech includes the right:
Not to speak (specifically, the right not to salute the flag).
West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943).
Of students to wear black armbands to school to protest a war (“Students do not shed their constitutional rights at the schoolhouse gate.”).
Tinker v. Des Moines, 393 U.S. 503 (1969).
To use certain offensive words and phrases to convey political messages.
Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971).
To contribute money (under certain circumstances) to political campaigns.
Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1 (1976).
To advertise commercial products and professional services (with some restrictions).
Virginia Board of Pharmacy v. Virginia Consumer Council, 425 U.S. 748 (1976); Bates v. State Bar of Arizona, 433 U.S. 350 (1977).
To engage in symbolic speech, (e.g., burning the flag in protest).
Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989); United States v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990).
Freedom of speech does not include the right:
To incite imminent lawless action.
Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969).
To make or distribute obscene materials.
Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957).
To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest.
United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968).
To permit students to print articles in a school newspaper over the objections of the school administration.
Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, 484 U.S. 260 (1988).
Of students to make an obscene speech at a school-sponsored event.
Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986).
Of students to advocate illegal drug use at a school-sponsored event.
Morse v. Frederick, __ U.S. __ (2007).
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Didn’t realize I worshipped Biden. Here I thought I only voted for him because he was better than the death of the American Republic.
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“I voted for a literal fascist to save the Republic” sounds a lot more like you’re scared that taxes will go up by 2%. Whether you worship him like the drooling knuckledraggers with Trump flags is immaterial. It doesn’t make you any less of a fucking fascist.
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Palingenetic ultranationalism with a disdain for democracy and rule of law, a fetish for violence, and tribal bigotry?
So, you know, everything we’ve seen ‘MAGA’ to stand for?
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“I don’t think you know the actual meaning of fascism.”
“This is what fascism is. [definition]”
“That makes no sense!”
You have fun with that, buddy.
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This “you don’t know what fascism is” thing is getting so old. It’s ultra-patriotism. Nation before self. USA has had a fascist streak forever. Even pre-WW2 and even post-WW2 we had fascist sympathizers.
None of this is new. MAGA is not new. Fascism is not complicated.
What did Mussolini want? Italy first. What did Hitler want? Germany first. What did the Japanese junta want? Japan first. What did the British, French, US etc want? Preservation of the balance of power. No one country first. NOBODY first. Trade and negotiation and treaties between equals instead.
What is so hard to understand about any of this? It’s really not hard. What does Putin want? Russia first. What does Xi Jinping want? China first. What do the US, UK, France etc want? The balance of power, no one country first. Instead trade and negotiation and treaties between equals.
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Tell me, who is “worshiping” Biden? I don’t see people superimposing Biden onto Rambo or Jesus Christ as they do at literally every MAGA rally…
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No, that’s almost exclusively a Republican trait.
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That simply speaks to the echo-chamber you’re in; I see criticism of Biden all the time. But remember, your words were, “worship.” The sheer cultism level of MAGA, and his likely nomination as GOPs pick again is leaps-and-bounds above anything Biden has. Biden wasn’t my first pick and I have my grievances of him as well.
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Several problems with this:
How is this Lemmy instance representative of all leftists and not a very select subset? Hell there are subs and communities within the leftist spectrum that completely differ.
You said people worship both sides, but where is the worship comparable to superimposing Trump onto Rambo and Jesus Christ routinely?
You said, “Biden receives no criticism from his own side” yet here I am within this Lemmy instance as a progressive-leftist saying that he’s too old and not progressive enough, and wasn’t even my 3rd pick in the Democratic primaries. This sentiment is wide.
In February, 58% of Democrats supported the nomination of someone other than Biden; this is less than Republicans for Trump…
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define “Free Speech”, oh moderator or “MakeLemmyGreatAgain”
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And again you are wrong. This time on the concept of free speech.
Free speech just means government can’t pass laws restricting speech. Does not mean you do not suffer consequences from a private party. To the effect a corporation banning you for your speech. Being removed from a social media site due to your comments. None of that is infringing on your free speech since there are no governmental restrictions on most things said/done. Just a private party wanting no part of the content the other party is providing.
Freedom of speech includes the right:
Freedom of speech does not include the right: