• Kogasa@programming.dev
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    10 months ago

    I am personally unaware of any serious reason to believe that Firefox’s numbers will improve soon.

    Either the author doesn’t know about the Manifest v2 deprecation or is saying it’s “unserious” to believe this might improve Firefox’s market share. Either way, goofy.

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      10 months ago

      Unfortunately, the masses just don’t care - extensions/add-ons are “too complex” for the typical user.

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        10 months ago

        Current browsers usually have all needed functionality without any extensions. Of course Firefox do not has the most important one - ads blocking.

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      10 months ago

      I would say that pretty much no one cares about the deprecation of Manifest v2 outside our little tech circle. Heck, not even the tech circle cares too much about this given how many use Chrome anyway. I hate to be saying this, but I’m afraid the author is right.

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        10 months ago

        I agree. I absolutely loved uMatrix, switched to uBo. But nowadays there is no much need for those, everything just works without exactly (or mostly) same. DarkReader? Thanks I have built-in switcher. And so on… Anyway v2 deprecation still won’t affect most normal 3rd party chromium browsers, they will continue to support both v2 and v3, not just Firefox will do it.

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          It is much more difficult than that imo.

          Many of the Chromium forks have small teams, sigificantly smaller and with little actual in-engine experience compared to Firefox for example.

          These teams need to have sufficient resources to maintain a reasonably significant fork of a standard, which will likely get harder over time, and which none of them presently deal with, as they ride the standards implemented by Chromium so far.

          Additionally they would have to maintain their own extension stores, which many presently don’t.

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            10 months ago

            Well, there are always different ways for devs to choose. Right now users want mv2 extensions, but later they could switch to mv3, so devs could decide to drop mv2 support.

            I agree with extensions store, if google removes mv2 extensions from their store that will make harder to install them, it will also would be not good for devs probably, so eventually mv3 will take place… Or Firefox could be a place where all mv2 are now…?

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      10 months ago

      I hate to break it to you but Firefox is terrible in the UI/UX department. I wish Mozilla was better at actually being a good company and nonprofit but they seem to have fallen to the way side.

      With that being said, I will refuse to use anything other than librewolf. My government isn’t going to dictate what browser to use. I do a lot of paper anyway so its not a big deal.

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        How is it terrible though? Argument it, because in my opinion, the UI is very similar across all browsers, and Firefox UX has always been better for me.

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        I like Firefox UI both on desktop and mobile. Desktop even supports complex CSS themes, which transformed my Firefox to look like GNOME Epiphany. I hate Brave Desktop UI, it is literally shit, mobile is OK, but I use Brave now, not Firefox. Firefox just too many steps behind in everything, from security to privacy…