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    1 year ago

    I’m sorry, as I’ve stated from the beginning, this work is most likely not accurate. However, I don’t think exploring odd theories makes someone a “kook,” no. He’s a scientist exploring and publishing a review of the research.

    Again, your comment stated that the authors are kooks. I stated the lead author is quite respected and then provided evidence backing my comment. Again, if you have specific evidence or quotes as to why you think this man is crazy, I’m all ears.

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      Again, your comment stated that the authors are kooks.

      Again, if you have specific evidence or quotes as to why you think this man is crazy, I’m all ears.

      ah, I’ve identified the problem-- either you’re illiterate, or you think I’m stupid enough to be distracted by your obvious trolling to notice you’re trying to put words in my mouth.

      enough with the Sealioning

      Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity (“I’m just trying to have a debate”), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter. It may take the form of “incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate”, and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings. The term originated with a 2014 strip of the webcomic Wondermark by David Malki, which The Independent called “the most apt description of Twitter you’ll ever see”.

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        1 year ago

        so you just found some crazy study online by some academic kooks and, rather than apply an ounce of critical thought, you just believed it.

        My apologies again. What does “academic kooks” mean to you?

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          moe Sealioning

          Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity (“I’m just trying to have a debate”), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter. It may take the form of “incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate”, and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings. The term originated with a 2014 strip of the webcomic Wondermark by David Malki, which The Independent called “the most apt description of Twitter you’ll ever see”.

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            I really do apologize that I came across that way. I want you to know that I’m not some shill. I was being genuine and I really tried to back that up. Ig it’s just another misunderstanding on social media. I hope you have a good day though

            Edit: odd how I had no downvotes and then I come here 5 minutes after the reply comment and I have 5 downvotes and the reply has 5 upvotes…

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              Please stop discussing upvotes and downvotes. Your last three comments have included references and it’s repetitive. If it bothers you, why not join an instance that doesn’t use downvotes?

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                This person is stalking me across all my posts. Idk what to do other than removed about it. Everything, no matter how innocuous, got to -5 within minutes. Your comment isn’t really helping. Someone is literally being a creep and stalking me and all you have to offer is “maybe you should leave”? Thanks, victim blaming is always so helpful.

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                  Dude. Karma isn’t a big deal on Lemmy. If you don’t like downvotes, use an instance that doesn’t use them. This community is for discussing questions, not using Lemmy. Next comment about this will be a community ban.

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                    1 year ago

                    Sorry, didn’t mean to break any rules. It just hurts that any helpful reply I give on a thread is immediately buried. I will not mention it again. This is not sarcasm, but I know it might sound that way-Thanks for all your time spent helping to grow Lemmy

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                curious as to why you left all the trolly comments and removed the comments from the person being trolled?

                edit: they clearly are seasoning:

                Sealioning refers to the disingenuous action by a commenter of making an ostensible effort to engage in sincere and serious civil debate, usually by asking persistent questions of the other commenter. These questions are phrased in a way that may come off as an effort to learn and engage with the subject at hand, but are really intended to erode the goodwill of the person to whom they are replying, to get them to appear impatient or to lash out, and therefore come off as unreasonable.

                as a mod, if you’re looking to foster communities for open discussion rather than a place that will become toxic, punishing people for being targets of trolls while leaving trolls alone isn’t the way to go.

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                  I don’t get how I did anything close to sealioning lol. I made a point with sources and asked for an explanation as to why someone disagreed with me

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                  I read through the thread a few times and while at first glance, it looked like one person was trolling, my conclusion in the end was that it was actually the other person. That’s why I deleted those posts.

                  I seriously considered removing the entire thread but my thought was that it would remove transparency. I’m not always going to get this right but I’ll do my best and listen to the follow-up comments.

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                    i read through it, too. it’s pretty textbook sealiong, and I don’t see how you don’t see that. as for transparency, that’s what the modlog is for.

                    if your stance is to punish the victim, I’ll know to see clear of this community myself. since fostering a toxic atmosphere is your goal, this isn’t a community I want to be a part of

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              you know exactly what you’re doing, and it’s no misunderstanding. you’re intentionally trolling. if you have any genuine intentions, you’ll simply stop. by replying to this comment, you confirm that you’re trolling.