I agree that forcing them is a problem, but a lot of these women themselves complained to the authorities, so i doubt in this particular case they are being forced, and how does outright banning it help the issue? People are forced to work with poor wages, why not ban all jobs?
It’s only banning in the workplace, not an outright ban.
There are plenty of Muslim females I have worked with who never wore a hijab in or outside of work, so if it’s no issue for them, why should it be an issue for these women?
How does it help the issue though, I have no idea.
I think you are missing my point here or yourself are confused, wearing a hijab these days in a modern society is very likely a choice, if a muslim women choses not to, it’s her decision
But banning it and calling it a religious symbol on top of that is a clear statement that they don’t support a personal harmless decision of an individual BECAUSE they follow a religion, and that in my opinion is just racism
And even a slightly controversial take of mine is that we shouldn’t really ban religious symbols either as long as they are not harmful, why would any sane person care if they see a women with a hijab or a burka? Or a person wearing a cross? No one unless they just don’t like anyone whose beliefs or ideology or opinion don’t match with them. The only thing these kinds of laws will do is potentially radicalize more people
The thing is we can’t bring all of humanity on an agreement on even a small issue, let alone something as complex as religion, however what we could do is try to set apart our differences and focus on the overall good for us. This law however is just a step in the opposite direction
It’s only banning in the workplace, not an outright ban.
Well, it’s a first step, isn’t it? The more Europeans don’t give a shit about freedom and democracy, the more we vote for rightwing extremists, the more we will be ready to put a crescent on the clothing of Muslims, don’t you think so.
Who would fight for their freedom, you?
so if it’s no issue for them, why should it be an issue for these women?
Because women are individuals, even Muslim women, who would have thought.
And we’re living in a culture that celebrates itself for protecting the freedom and the rights of the individuals.
And who are you to tell what’s other people choices and what not. That’s unbelievably arrogant.
Wearing jeans (or any other iconic piece of clothing) isn’t your choice, it’s just normal where you grew up. You just adapted to the culture you live in. You’re just a conformist. Or a ‘Spießer’ as we say in German.
And this probably isn’t limited to dress codes. How about ideas, ideologies, worldviews different from yours?
If Muslim women no longer wore headscarves because they weren’t allowed to, how would you recognize the oppressed people you want to “liberate”.
I would hardly put a hijab in the category of ‘by her choice’…
I agree that forcing them is a problem, but a lot of these women themselves complained to the authorities, so i doubt in this particular case they are being forced, and how does outright banning it help the issue? People are forced to work with poor wages, why not ban all jobs?
It’s only banning in the workplace, not an outright ban.
There are plenty of Muslim females I have worked with who never wore a hijab in or outside of work, so if it’s no issue for them, why should it be an issue for these women?
How does it help the issue though, I have no idea.
I think you are missing my point here or yourself are confused, wearing a hijab these days in a modern society is very likely a choice, if a muslim women choses not to, it’s her decision
But banning it and calling it a religious symbol on top of that is a clear statement that they don’t support a personal harmless decision of an individual BECAUSE they follow a religion, and that in my opinion is just racism
And even a slightly controversial take of mine is that we shouldn’t really ban religious symbols either as long as they are not harmful, why would any sane person care if they see a women with a hijab or a burka? Or a person wearing a cross? No one unless they just don’t like anyone whose beliefs or ideology or opinion don’t match with them. The only thing these kinds of laws will do is potentially radicalize more people
The thing is we can’t bring all of humanity on an agreement on even a small issue, let alone something as complex as religion, however what we could do is try to set apart our differences and focus on the overall good for us. This law however is just a step in the opposite direction
Well, it’s a first step, isn’t it? The more Europeans don’t give a shit about freedom and democracy, the more we vote for rightwing extremists, the more we will be ready to put a crescent on the clothing of Muslims, don’t you think so.
Who would fight for their freedom, you?
Because women are individuals, even Muslim women, who would have thought.
And we’re living in a culture that celebrates itself for protecting the freedom and the rights of the individuals.
Sounds kind of crazy, doesn’t it?
And who are you to tell what’s other people choices and what not. That’s unbelievably arrogant.
Wearing jeans (or any other iconic piece of clothing) isn’t your choice, it’s just normal where you grew up. You just adapted to the culture you live in. You’re just a conformist. Or a ‘Spießer’ as we say in German.
And this probably isn’t limited to dress codes. How about ideas, ideologies, worldviews different from yours?
If Muslim women no longer wore headscarves because they weren’t allowed to, how would you recognize the oppressed people you want to “liberate”.