Of course they will, and at least 90% of those will stop moderating within a week bcause they have no idea what it entails and just like the sound of having power.
Another 9.99% will push personal agendas, post ads, malware, etc. or a dozen other things that will kill the sub.
In the end they’ll probably get decent moderatos for less than a tenth of those they seek.
That is just wishful thinking. A large number of people on reddit still use it a lot. Enough to not mind sitting there and moderating. If someone stops moderating they know they can be replaced really quickly now.
The amount of people who just want to shit on reddit with their unrealistic expectations is unbelievable lmao
Counterpoint, the quality of moderation was already pretty patchy, and the quality will continue to decrease. The mods who left are the ones with the most integrity. In my opinion, stepping down in protest is a sign of integrity, which is a key trait of a good mod.
The conclusion that the replacements will be worse is just a statistical average taken at face value, so who knows for sure. It isn’t an ironclad conclusion, but I think it’s a bit better than mere wishful thinking.
I think terms like “better” or “worse” are a bit misleading in this case.
Suppose 10% of all newly appointed mods are enough of a good fit for reddit & the community to fulfil the role indefinitely. The other 90% are shit, but will either get sick of it or be exposed as shit within a few months. If you keep rolling the dice, while keeping the less-shit ones then over time the quality of the pool will improve.
I think we also need to acknowledge that reddit is changing. Perhaps you and me prefer the way it was, but there’s plenty of people will be just as happy or happier with whatever it becomes. In some ways maybe newly appointed mods can be a better fit, or able to grow into whatever it is that reddit is becoming.
So while undoubtedly the quality of moderation in some subs will take a nose dive, and may even cause some subs to die, I’m not convince that it will be a significant detriment to reddit’s advertising revenue in the long term. Note that I’m not saying the user experience will ever improve - I think that’s dead.
With all that in mind, I just can’t imagine being a reddit mod, and it’s hard to believe reddit mods saying that they do it for the community. Volunteering for things you care about is great, but you need to keep some dignity.
It doesn’t need to happen when lemmy is already taking off, even if it’s slow at first. This is spez we are talking about, we just need to wait for a few crisis more.
there’s a lot of people clammering at the opportunity to shape conservations that fit their agenda. at least the cookers in the past were generally laughed out of the room but I’ve seen quite a few make concerted efforts to control certain subs
I would love to see what happens, its psycologically convieniemt to say its good evidence, its honestly a question of percentages. What percent will moderate the hellsite and what percent will be earnist.
They’re usually the last people you’d want moderating. The best mods are ones who are putting the effort in to build up the kind of communities they want to subscribe to. It can be a significant time investment and a matter of responsibility rather than power. Folks who leap at these opportunities are looking for the latter.
People will line up by the thousands to become a new moderator. Reddit will keep their free labour.
Of course they will, and at least 90% of those will stop moderating within a week bcause they have no idea what it entails and just like the sound of having power.
Another 9.99% will push personal agendas, post ads, malware, etc. or a dozen other things that will kill the sub.
In the end they’ll probably get decent moderatos for less than a tenth of those they seek.
That is just wishful thinking. A large number of people on reddit still use it a lot. Enough to not mind sitting there and moderating. If someone stops moderating they know they can be replaced really quickly now.
The amount of people who just want to shit on reddit with their unrealistic expectations is unbelievable lmao
Counterpoint, the quality of moderation was already pretty patchy, and the quality will continue to decrease. The mods who left are the ones with the most integrity. In my opinion, stepping down in protest is a sign of integrity, which is a key trait of a good mod.
The conclusion that the replacements will be worse is just a statistical average taken at face value, so who knows for sure. It isn’t an ironclad conclusion, but I think it’s a bit better than mere wishful thinking.
I think terms like “better” or “worse” are a bit misleading in this case.
Suppose 10% of all newly appointed mods are enough of a good fit for reddit & the community to fulfil the role indefinitely. The other 90% are shit, but will either get sick of it or be exposed as shit within a few months. If you keep rolling the dice, while keeping the less-shit ones then over time the quality of the pool will improve.
I think we also need to acknowledge that reddit is changing. Perhaps you and me prefer the way it was, but there’s plenty of people will be just as happy or happier with whatever it becomes. In some ways maybe newly appointed mods can be a better fit, or able to grow into whatever it is that reddit is becoming.
So while undoubtedly the quality of moderation in some subs will take a nose dive, and may even cause some subs to die, I’m not convince that it will be a significant detriment to reddit’s advertising revenue in the long term. Note that I’m not saying the user experience will ever improve - I think that’s dead.
With all that in mind, I just can’t imagine being a reddit mod, and it’s hard to believe reddit mods saying that they do it for the community. Volunteering for things you care about is great, but you need to keep some dignity.
Do you think that’s likely to play out in their favor by IPO time?
Let’s say they have lost 50% of the regular contributors (very optimistic), that still leaves thousands of potential mods.
Another mass exodus will only happen if Reddit continues to rock the boat musk fashion, else it will take years for people to move on.
They haven’t taken down old.reddit yet.
I’ve been kind of wondering if that’s that next paywall they have planned.
I mean, come on. They even locked an app icon behind a paywall. That’s way less useful then the old reddit interface.
I don’t think they’re going to paywall old.reddit, I think they’re just going to do away with it entirely.
People are downvoting you because they’d like to see otherwise, but you’re right. Hell, I’d like to see otherwise, but it’s not gonna happen.
It doesn’t need to happen when lemmy is already taking off, even if it’s slow at first. This is spez we are talking about, we just need to wait for a few crisis more.
there’s a lot of people clammering at the opportunity to shape conservations that fit their agenda. at least the cookers in the past were generally laughed out of the room but I’ve seen quite a few make concerted efforts to control certain subs
I mean, they all have positive up votes (could be fake) and plenty of comments…
I would love to see what happens, its psycologically convieniemt to say its good evidence, its honestly a question of percentages. What percent will moderate the hellsite and what percent will be earnist.
They’re usually the last people you’d want moderating. The best mods are ones who are putting the effort in to build up the kind of communities they want to subscribe to. It can be a significant time investment and a matter of responsibility rather than power. Folks who leap at these opportunities are looking for the latter.