Media perpetuates these ideals but they didn’t originate with them. These ideals of masculinity have been around for hundreds of years before the modern media.
No, but I never said that they originated with the media, either. Your original comment indicated that you were talking about the present, so that’s what I was referring to as well.
My point is that the media influences gender norms and expectations at least as much as—if not more than—parents and peers, and has done so for generations. As the media largely represents the ideals of those with power and money, those same people are effectively “instilling these toxic ideals of masculinity in to young men”.
You say yourself here, “the media influences gender norms… at least as much as”. Yeah, of course, it is a problem throughout all layers of society. Your earlier comment seemed to be saying that blame should be mostly with the 1%? I’m not sure what you are saying here.
Media perpetuates these ideals but they didn’t originate with them. These ideals of masculinity have been around for hundreds of years before the modern media.
No, but I never said that they originated with the media, either. Your original comment indicated that you were talking about the present, so that’s what I was referring to as well.
My point is that the media influences gender norms and expectations at least as much as—if not more than—parents and peers, and has done so for generations. As the media largely represents the ideals of those with power and money, those same people are effectively “instilling these toxic ideals of masculinity in to young men”.
You say yourself here, “the media influences gender norms… at least as much as”. Yeah, of course, it is a problem throughout all layers of society. Your earlier comment seemed to be saying that blame should be mostly with the 1%? I’m not sure what you are saying here.