The plain and simple of it is that I’m not a good moderator. I have no idea what I’m doing. I wanted a community where people could post conservative stuff without it getting overwhelmed by lefty stuff, and then you could have discussions/arguments in the comment section. Bring to light stories that wouldn’t normally be seen on lemmy. Since that didn’t exist on lemmy, I had to do it myself.

Right now, there’s a lot of toxicity, some straight up telling people to kill themselves. My whole moderation policy was basically “So long as it isn’t a straight up slur, you could comment it”.

You’d think it’d be simple, just ban those who do that. Well, what about those who defend baby murder? I know lefties genuinely believe it isn’t, but I do. How do you tell what is horrible shit, when lefties act like horror movie monsters?

What about those who I’m like 90% sure are arguing in bad faith? I want to encourage discussions and arguments, and if I’m wrong, what then?

Me doing keyword-based moderating was a bad idea, but I am at a loss of how to do better, without breaking what this sub was supposed to be about.

I need ideas.

How should I moderate this community?

  • intensely_human@lemm.ee
    62·
    8 months ago

    I think we need to get further into what is meant by a political community.

    Are we really intending to set out to create an echo chamber?

    Maybe the people who are anti-conservative should be allowed, so long as they are discussing conservative ideas.

    • Terevos@lemm.ee
      37·
      8 months ago

      Right now, the entire fediverse is a leftist echo chamber. The only way to not have this community also be a leftist echo chamber would be to not allow anti-conservative rhetoric

      • PizzaMan@lemm.ee
        65·
        8 months ago

        You’re describing the creation of an echo chamber.

        If you hate echo chambers so much, don’t go making a new one.

      • intensely_human@lemm.ee
        33·
        8 months ago

        The only way to not have this community also be a leftist echo chamber is to add our own voices to it so it doesn’t only have one view.

        Perhaps this community should be called “conservatives allowed” and the way we keep it from being an echo chamber is we don’t ban people for expressing certain political beliefs.

        The difference between this place and places that become a leftist echo chamber would then be: you can say conservative things and not get banned. This prevents the set of voices from becoming skewed, as it does in places where conservatives get banned for being conservative.

        • PizzaMan@lemm.ee
          53·
          8 months ago

          Perhaps this community should be called “conservatives allowed”

          Another guy did that on lemmy.world a few months ago. That sub didn’t last more than a few weeks because he kept breaking instances rules over bigotry.

          This prevents the set of voices from becoming skewed, as it does in places where conservatives get banned for being conservative.

          Thats actually a common misconception. Aside from subs like c/leftism and such, nobody gets banned from the generic c/politics type ones for being conservative. Instead they get banned for breaking rules and bigotry/hate/aggressiveness.

          The users TJD, MonoTimeToDie and Jimbolauski are good examples of this. TJD in particular has been calling users slurs left and right. One conservative user by a name I don’t remember had a bit of a breakdown telling literally everyone to kill themselves in a thread they made to complain about liberals. It isn’t a coincidence.

          Edit; See bellow, MonoTimeToDie proving my exact point by calling me a rat.

          • intensely_human@lemm.ee
            34·
            8 months ago

            Aside from subs like c/leftism and such, nobody gets banned from the generic c/politics type ones for being conservative.

            Again this same fallacy. I see this everywhere: people making assertions of the form “X does not occur”.

            You’re wrong. I have been banned for being conservative from many communities not labeled as leftist.

            Generally speaking if you’re about to make a statement of the form “X does not occur” just stop. There’s no way to know a thing like that, without having been everywhere and seen everything. Have some mental discipline. Recognize the limits of your own knowledge.

            • PizzaMan@lemm.ee
              41·
              8 months ago

              I’m using the colloquial sense of the word “nobody”, therefore I was not stating it was an absolute. Have some mental discipline and ask for clarification before assuming something about what somebody is stating.