La Trobe University research shows Australians would prefer to embrace many other green options to help the environment before giving up meat and becoming vegetarians.

  • A study shows Australians would rather take other actions to help the environment than give up meat.

  • Participants cite a lack of vegetarian options when dining out, despite Australia having more than ever, as a barrier to the diet.

  • Researchers hope the study will highlight reasons behind people’s reluctance to reduce meat consumption.

  • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social
    66·
    1 year ago

    meat is good for you?!?!?! literally the only POSSIBLY half decent meat is fish and i know that’s not what you’re talking about.

    you’re that fent addict i knew who said that opiates were necessary for dopamine levels

    • Whirlybird@aussie.zone
      85·
      1 year ago

      Yes, meat is good for you. It’s full of nutrients that are good for you. It’s the best source of many vital things. We have teeth made for eating meat. That’s not a coincidence.

      • Nath@aussie.zone
        21·
        1 year ago

        I killed this thread derail: it is not contributing to the discussion and has devolved into name-calling.

          • Nath@aussie.zone
            2·
            1 year ago

            If you are saying my actions are comparable to Reddit, there are differences:

            1. I am transparent about it and my reasoning for it. It’s not some faceless, anonymous person censoring discussion.
            2. You can go to aussie.zone and click on the modlog. You can see the original messages if you really want. Again, transparent.

            So it’s not really like Reddit at all.

            • Whirlybird@aussie.zone
              1·
              1 year ago

              Yeah I disagree with any Reddit comparison here. This is good moderation. I say this as one of the posters that has comments deleted. If this was like Reddit whoever the mod disagreed with would be permanently banned.

      • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social
        22·
        1 year ago

        Our teeth are made for eating fruit and mashing uncooked yams into something we could digest. Jesus Christ.

        Steak has less nutritional density than quinoa, lentils, broccoli, spinach, carrots, and at that point I just gave up and asked GPT4, which said this:

        In a general sense, the vast majority of commonly eaten vegetables and legumes would be considered more nutrient-dense than steak when evaluating the full spectrum of nutrients relative to calorie content. If we’re assessing nutrient density across a range of vitamins, minerals, and fiber, likely over 90% of vegetables and legumes would have a higher nutrient density than steak, due to their low-calorie content and rich array of nutrients. However, specific comparisons always depend on which nutrients you prioritize.

        And

        If we take whole grains such as brown rice, quinoa, barley, and oats, they are generally more nutrient-dense in terms of vitamins and minerals per calorie compared to steak, especially when considering their fiber content and variety of micronutrients.

        TLDR: fuck no

        • Whirlybird@aussie.zone
          1·
          1 year ago

          So we’re only made to eat the most nutritionally dense food? Nothing else?

          We’re not herbivores. Humanity has hunted and eaten meat since the earliest traces. There’s no better source of protein and other vital nutrients.

          • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social
            11·
            1 year ago

            you were literally talking about nutrition!!!

            here, I asked GPT for a list of health benefits of veganism:

            A well-balanced vegan diet that includes essential nutrients such as Vitamin B12 and DHA (docosahexaenoic acid, an omega-3 fatty acid) can offer a range of long-term health benefits. Here is a list of potential benefits based on scientific research and nutritional studies:

            1. Heart Health: Vegan diets are typically rich in heart-healthy nutrients. They are high in dietary fiber and antioxidants, and low in saturated fats, which can help reduce the risk of heart disease.
            1. Weight Management: Plant-based diets are often lower in calories and can help in weight management and reduce the risk of obesity.
            1. Diabetes Prevention and Management: A vegan diet can help in the prevention and management of diabetes by improving insulin sensitivity and reducing blood sugar levels.
            1. Cancer Risk Reduction: Some studies suggest that a vegan diet may reduce the risk of certain types of cancer, such as colon cancer, due to high levels of dietary fiber, vitamins, and phytochemicals.
            1. Improved Digestive Health: High fiber intake from a vegan diet supports digestive health and can help prevent constipation and diverticular disease.
            1. Lower Blood Pressure: Plant-based diets can contribute to lower blood pressure due to their low sodium and high potassium content.
            1. Reduced Risk of Stroke: Some evidence suggests that a higher intake of fruits and vegetables associated with a vegan diet can reduce the risk of stroke.
            1. Improved Cholesterol Levels: Vegan diets can improve cholesterol levels, reducing LDL (bad cholesterol) and increasing HDL (good cholesterol).
            1. Cognitive Health: Adequate levels of DHA are important for brain health. Including DHA from algae sources can help maintain cognitive function.
            1. Bone Health: With proper attention to calcium and vitamin D intake, a vegan diet can support bone health.
            1. Longevity: Some studies have linked vegan diets with a longer lifespan, possibly due to the reduced risk of chronic diseases.
            1. Reduced Inflammation: Plant-based diets can have anti-inflammatory properties.
            1. Improved Skin Health: A diet high in fruits and vegetables can improve skin health due to the high content of vitamins and antioxidants.
            1. Allergy Relief: Some individuals report relief from allergies when adopting a vegan diet, possibly due to the elimination of certain animal-based allergens.
            1. Environmental Benefits: While not a direct health benefit, the environmental advantages of a vegan diet contribute to overall wellbeing by promoting a sustainable and healthy planet.
            1. Improved Kidney Function: A plant-based diet may help slow the progression of chronic kidney disease and improve kidney function.
            1. Eye Health: Nutrients like vitamins C and E, found in a vegan diet, can support eye health and reduce the risk of cataracts and macular degeneration.
            1. Enhanced Mood: Some studies suggest that the consumption of fruits and vegetables has been associated with improved mood and mental well-being.
            1. Hormonal Balance: Plant-based diets can help in maintaining a balanced level of hormones in the body.

            continued in second comment, because there were too many benefits to fit in 5000 characters

          • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social
            12·
            1 year ago
            1. Reduced Exposure to Antibiotics and Hormones: By avoiding meat, a vegan diet reduces exposure to antibiotics and hormones often used in animal farming.
            1. Lower Risk of Certain Autoimmune Diseases: A plant-based diet may reduce the risk of certain autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis.
            1. Gut Microbiome Diversity: A high intake of plant-based foods can lead to a more diverse and health-promoting gut microbiota.
            1. Reduced Risk of Gallstones and Gallbladder Disease: Diets high in fiber and healthy fats, and low in cholesterol, may reduce the risk of gallstones.
            1. Lower Levels of Toxic Compounds in the Body: Vegan diets may lead to lower levels of harmful chemicals like PCBs and dioxins that accumulate in the fat of animals.
            1. Potential Reduction in the Risk of Alzheimer’s Disease: Some studies suggest that diets rich in fruits, vegetables, grains, and nuts, with an emphasis on antioxidant and nutrient-rich foods, may lower the risk of Alzheimer’s disease and other forms of dementia.
            1. Improved Sleep Quality: Diet plays a role in sleep regulation, and some plant-based foods contain natural compounds that may promote better sleep.
            1. Reduced Risk of Foodborne Illnesses: Plant-based diets may carry a lower risk of bacterial foodborne illnesses, especially those related to meat consumption.
            1. Hormone-Free Eating: Plant-based diets avoid the hormones found in animal products, which can have various health effects.
            1. Lower Risk of Hormone-Related Cancers: Diets high in animal products have been linked to certain hormone-related cancers, such as breast and prostate cancer, which may be less common in those following a vegan diet.
            1. Potential for Improved Athletic Performance: Some athletes report improved recovery times and performance due to the anti-inflammatory effects of a plant-based diet.
            1. Mitigation of Secondary Dietary Risks: By avoiding fish, a vegan diet also avoids the risk of mercury exposure, which is a concern with certain types of seafood.

            TLDR: Fuck no

            • Whirlybird@aussie.zone
              1·
              1 year ago

              Potential, potential, potential……yeah no actual points.

              Also you lost the second you listed better athletic performance 😂. Vegan professional athletes at a high level are as rare as hens teeth.

              • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social
                11·
                1 year ago

                cope more.

                enjoy cancer, I guess.

                literally all evidence points to a plant based diet being superior. but you go with your gut (and its fucky biomes!)

                • Whirlybird@aussie.zone
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  Haha oh you’re one of those people that think meat causes cancer? Oh boy. See ya.

                  Also if you have to take supplements with your diet to get the essentials then your diet isn’t right.

                  • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    The consumption of processed meats has been classified by the World Health Organization as a Group 1 carcinogen, meaning there is sufficient evidence that it can increase the risk of cancer, particularly colorectal cancer. Red meat has been classified as a Group 2A carcinogen, meaning it probably increases the risk of cancer.

                    Yeah bro, that’d be the WHO, not me.

      • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social
        11·
        1 year ago

        If a vegan diet is well-planned and includes necessary supplements like B12 and DHA, it can offer health benefits such as a reduced risk of heart disease, certain cancers, obesity, and type 2 diabetes compared to typical Western diets that are high in processed meat and saturated fat. These benefits are significant and supported by a substantial body of research.

        DHA is the omega 3 found in fish, FYI