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The Biden administration requested Israel detail the thinking and process behind the recent strike on the Jabalia Refugee Camp in Northern Gaza, according to a U.S. official, who like others was granted anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations.
“The U.S. asked for an explanation of the first [attack] on Jabalia,” said the official, adding that the conversation was in the context of “asking Israel to do more to avoid civilian casualties.”
I’m not talking about the Aliyah, I’m talking about the persecution of Jews in that area for 1000s of years. https://lemmy.kya.moe/imgproxy?src=i.imgur.com%2fkl9n1jT.png
How can Zionism be a racist project when it is a mixed population with the majority being of middle eastern descent? https://lemmy.kya.moe/imgproxy?src=i.imgur.com%2f9laOetm.png
Forgot to address your final point my apologies. Here is one of many pictures that can be found of Jews purchasing the land https://lemmy.kya.moe/imgproxy?src=i.imgur.com%2f5fYx5Ud.jpg
What you said about the British stealing it may be true but why place the blame on Jews? The man in that picture doesn’t look British. They bought the land with money they saved up for to flee extermination in Europe.
Buying stolen land is not legitimate lol
That’s not about blame, that’s just about nationhood. A nation built on stolen land is always a settler-colony (looking at you Amerikkka)
The “persecution of Jews in that area for 1000s of years” in your link gives examples of Spanish antisemitism though. You’re doing the thing where you assume all Muslims are Arabs. Also it lists Christians being persecuted alongside them, no sure how you interpret that.
Now as for racism, it’s not like US racism where there’s a clear dividing line between races with whiteness being the privileged racial class.
It’s more like colorismo in Latin America, where the lightness of skin correlates with social, political, and economic privileges. There’s a reason why the ruling class in Israel all have light skinned faces and Arabs, even Jewish ones, deal with racial discrimination. A dark skinned Jew will need to prove their Jewishness in ways a light skinned one won’t.
However it does have a racial component similar to the US; free people of color were considered legally white if they had less than either one-eighth or one-quarter African ancestry, and in Israel you’re considered legally Jewish if you have at least one-eighth Jewish ancestry. Also? Inter-“faith” marriage is illegal, again similar to laws against interracial marriage in the US. Interesting parallels.
Okay, here are two more links detailing their persecution in the Middle East.
https://lemmy.kya.moe/imgproxy?src=i.imgur.com%2fTc0zvjq.jpg
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2019-01-24/ty-article-magazine/like-father-like-son-the-ottoman-governor-who-tortured-the-jews-of-jerusalem/0000017f-f7cc-d044-adff-f7fd35c00000
Okay, that’s more relevant. Though the Damascus affair seems to have been instigated by France and Turkey, then spread south later.
Ibn Farouk, on the other hand, is noted as an outlier and a tyrant who bought his way into power. That hardly means he reflects something common to the region. Also, notably, persecuted Christians and Muslims that pissed him off - just an asshole in general. Weirdly, I can’t actually find anything about him outside of this article and its source The Museum of the Jewish People at Beit Hatfutsot. Strange.
There’s also this guy https://lemmy.kya.moe/imgproxy?src=i.imgur.com%2fpuycOKG.jpg who gave the Nazis widespread support throughout Palestine and even personally assisted in recruiting Muslims to the SS. There’s also this book https://imgur.io/gh1T0AV?r written by the leader of the PLO where he argues zionists wanted an extermination of their own people to make the world feel sorry for them.
Here’s another, the Hebron massacre in 1929 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
Jew hate for the sake of Jew hate is very well documented in this area. Their own actions and words speak for themselves.
Are you unfamiliar with the Haavara Agreement? Zionist do actually intentionally heighten antisemitism around the world specifically so that Jews are forced to become settlers. It’s a very obvious strategy they use, it’s why all anti-Zionism is equated with antisemitism. It wasn’t to ‘make us sorry for them’, though, that’s definitely backwards; it’s to make people hate Jews by smearing them with the crimes of Zionism and promoting antisemitism (they helped create Hamas, did you know that?) and forcing them to flee to the settler-colony.
Just another facet of Zionist racism. They push Jew hate to justify their own militarism and brutality and inherently fascistic ethnonationalism.
In order for there to ever be a multi-ethnic democratic state in the middle east, Zionism must be left in the dustbin of history.
I am quite familiar with the haavara agreement. It was an agreement that allowed Germany to rid itself of its “problem” and allowed Jews to flee to already established Jewish settlements in Palestine. That has absolutely nothing to do with the holocaust. They wanted OUT of Germany. Not herded into a gas chamber…
And it parallels the modern practices of Zionism, by promoting antisemitism around the world and then welcoming Jews who flee antisemitism into the already established Jewish settlement in occupied Palestine. Nothing has changed.
I’m not saying Zionists did the holocaust, but they literally did work with Hitler to help rid Germany of Jews. That’s verifiable fact. I don’t think they wanted the holocaust to happen, but WWII sure was convenient for encouraging Jews to flee to occupied Palestine.
That’s a LOT of scheming for a piece of land the size of New Jersey. Even smaller had they agreed to the UN proposal and unified with Transjordan and let the Zionists deal with cultivating the negev desert.