• markeuzu@exploding-heads.com
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    1 year ago

    Like, rich people kill themselves all the time, which suggest there’s no relationship between the two

    Posting a fallacy. Everyone knows rich people are on average happier than poor people. Up to a certain point it has a massive improvement in happiness and stagnates above a certain point.

    There are dozens of studies that show that wealth correlates with happiness. Which is kinda obvious as well.

    So yes, there is a correlation.

    Again, your issue is with democracy and not capitalism. Its a flawed system but the only one that will ever work in this world.

    Any other option never worked out and usually had genocides as result.

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      1 year ago

      your issue is with democracy and not capitalism

      Go on. How is my issue with democracy?

      Its a flawed system but the only one that will ever work in this world.

      What do you mean “work”? Because fuedalism “worked” just fine, too, along with monarchies and other forms of government and distributions of power. They all “worked” just fine…for everybody that wasn’t oppressed by it. I’m not sure how capitalism meaningfully differs in that respect from any of the other versions.

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        1 year ago

        Your problems are all related to economics and can be fixed with the right laws. Capitalism just has the inherent problem of edging on the border of abuse of the working man if not left in check.

        Democracy with short term roles has the issue of politicians chasing short term goals to convince the public to vote for them again.

        We get those weird situations in which some folks get massive taxbreaks and others get nothing nada.

        Feel free to correct me if im wrong.

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          1 year ago

          Capitalism just has the inherent problem of edging on the border of abuse of the working man if not left in check.

          Not just the working man. Climate change is a direct response to fossil fuel executives knowing the potential for climate change and then going out their way to suppress that information for decades. Infamously known for his appreciation of capitalism, part of Marx’s criticism of capitalism was that it devoured everything.

          I’m not sure there’s a such thing as “right” laws, but yes, laws can address some of the issues. But that’s like chaining a killer dog: the second you get lax, your dog might end up doing what comes naturally to it.

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            1 year ago

            I agree partly. Mostly because the last couple years we are following the best case scenario scientists predicted, and capitalism lets people innovate. We have electric cars, solarpanels etc which are cheaper than fossil fuels for the average consumer.

            And these products are getting cheaper over time as capitalism supports price competition. Not to mention the fact any government can subsidize and help their paying tax members transition to a greener alternative.

            If we keep up as we do now fossil fuels will be more expensive and we will transition to a fuel free future.

            Capitalism might be ripe for abuse but any economic model can be abused by a bad actor. At least with capitalism its easier to turn the tide.

            I personally wouldnt even read any commie literature written decades ago as its outdated in this global economy and most of the literature doesnt apply to this society. Not to mention any of the numerous attempts failed so far. Biggest example being China which switched over and got a massive economic boost and is investing billions in green energy. When they had communism as main drive millions died of hunger. Look at them now.

            A true utopia would be a fascist model in which one person will decide the course of action for a plethora of decades to reform and build changes towards a green future. That will never happen.

            Side note, I dont like the word “climate change”. My preference would be “climate crisis”.

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      1 year ago

      If anything, the problem is probably more with the Republic concept rather than democracy. Democracy has its problem of that the minority always loses, but Republics… That’s just putting power into the hands of the few. Which tends to come back to the wealthy.