They don’t do a great job of it, but when has anyone else prevented all civilian casualties in a war? It doesn’t mean they don’t have the right to strike at Hamas
That’s right that they don’t do a great job at that as they kill over 20 times more Palestinians than Hamas kills Israeli. They just don’t care at all.
That’s such a dumb argument, Hamas would LOVE to kill more civilians in fact they’d like to kill all the Jewish people in Israel. Israel could very easily kill everyone in Gaza but instead they’re building complex defensive systems and using incredibly expensive systems to try and limit civilian casualties.
Yes Hamas are not nice people and would happily kill every Israeli, but that doesn’t mean Israel should not exercise caution to avoid killing palestinians.
I completely agree, and I really think they do because if they wanted to they could wipe that place off the map in an hour but whats always stopped their military is global public opinion due to civilian casualties. It doesn’t make sense for them to give Hamas political capitol by targeting civilians.
I absolutely agree some of their tactics have been brutal and civilian casualties are high but that’s true in every war.
Israel has been making major strides in creating friendly relations where possible in the region, especially with Jordan and Saudi Arabia - the last thing they need is a brutal conflict resulting in dead Muslims, however Muslim fundamentalists benefit greatly from Israel looking bad which is why it’s likely Iran and other groups have forced this conflict and planned it in a way that makes civilian casualties impossible to avoid.
I think there are probably better solutions than what’s currently happening, I have no idea what they would be though and everything I think of has either been tried or has obvious flaws.
The oppression of Palestinian people by Israel predates the existence of Hamas. Gaza (until 2007 when the blockade began) and the West Bank have been under Israeli military occupation since 1967, against international law. Hamas is a more violent, more radical descendant from the Muslim Brotherhood and was founded in 1987.
What I don’t understand is why many reject Sharia law as fascist and undemocratic, which is a justified opinion, but hand-wave Zionism even tho it’s the same fascist Holy Scripture bullshit in a different color.
Doesn’t offset the balance that much. I was generous with the 20:1 to account for that, the listed data is closer to 23.7:1. But yeah, who cares that Israel murdered plenty of Palestinian civilians over decades, they’re the bad guys anyway lol. B-b-but the attack!!!
Glad you found something you don’t like with the facts, so you can continue to support a far-right, nationalist government on their quest to genocide. I’m sure they will repay you for your valiant efforts. I’m also sure, the UN Office are just antisemites that willfully skew their statistics to make Israel look bad, you convinced me.
The answer isn’t to indiscriminately just level entire neighborhoods.
I agree, but even a surgical operation would cause civilian deaths. You can’t deny that there would be costs to civilians
Yeah, why bother trying to minimize civilian casualties, especially if it sounds like work.
They don’t do a great job of it, but when has anyone else prevented all civilian casualties in a war? It doesn’t mean they don’t have the right to strike at Hamas
That’s right that they don’t do a great job at that as they kill over 20 times more Palestinians than Hamas kills Israeli. They just don’t care at all.
That’s such a dumb argument, Hamas would LOVE to kill more civilians in fact they’d like to kill all the Jewish people in Israel. Israel could very easily kill everyone in Gaza but instead they’re building complex defensive systems and using incredibly expensive systems to try and limit civilian casualties.
You can’t just go on which number is bigger.
Yes Hamas are not nice people and would happily kill every Israeli, but that doesn’t mean Israel should not exercise caution to avoid killing palestinians.
I completely agree, and I really think they do because if they wanted to they could wipe that place off the map in an hour but whats always stopped their military is global public opinion due to civilian casualties. It doesn’t make sense for them to give Hamas political capitol by targeting civilians.
I absolutely agree some of their tactics have been brutal and civilian casualties are high but that’s true in every war.
Israel has been making major strides in creating friendly relations where possible in the region, especially with Jordan and Saudi Arabia - the last thing they need is a brutal conflict resulting in dead Muslims, however Muslim fundamentalists benefit greatly from Israel looking bad which is why it’s likely Iran and other groups have forced this conflict and planned it in a way that makes civilian casualties impossible to avoid.
I think there are probably better solutions than what’s currently happening, I have no idea what they would be though and everything I think of has either been tried or has obvious flaws.
The oppression of Palestinian people by Israel predates the existence of Hamas. Gaza (until 2007 when the blockade began) and the West Bank have been under Israeli military occupation since 1967, against international law. Hamas is a more violent, more radical descendant from the Muslim Brotherhood and was founded in 1987.
Everyone knew and knows that Hamas is radical organization bent on terrorism, but still the current Likud regime deliberately used Hamas to keep PNA-influence at bay.
What I don’t understand is why many reject Sharia law as fascist and undemocratic, which is a justified opinion, but hand-wave Zionism even tho it’s the same fascist Holy Scripture bullshit in a different color.
Source: Hamas
Source: the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs
But thanks for playing.
Data only goes to 8/31
Can’t think of any incident that happened after this?
Doesn’t offset the balance that much. I was generous with the 20:1 to account for that, the listed data is closer to 23.7:1. But yeah, who cares that Israel murdered plenty of Palestinian civilians over decades, they’re the bad guys anyway lol. B-b-but the attack!!!
Glad you found something you don’t like with the facts, so you can continue to support a far-right, nationalist government on their quest to genocide. I’m sure they will repay you for your valiant efforts. I’m also sure, the UN Office are just antisemites that willfully skew their statistics to make Israel look bad, you convinced me.