• anzich@feddit.de
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    10 months ago

    I became a doomer. Humanity is a failed species. But everything that reduces suffering is worth doing. And everything that leaves the planet in a better state after we are gone is worth doing.

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      10 months ago

      Reduce suffering? We should all be on board with that. Anyone saying these things should be assumed to be vegan.

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          10 months ago

          But killing things unnecessarily is cruel. So, best to just avoid it. Added benefit is that it’s significantly better for the environment.

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              10 months ago

              It sure is better than it would be if all the vegans and vegetarians were consuming meat. More importantly, fewer sentient animals that feel pain and fear have been abused and killed.

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                10 months ago

                fewer sentient animals that feel pain and fear have been abused and killed.

                not only can this not be proven, it implies pain, fear, and abuse are inherent to animal husbandry, but they are not.

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                  10 months ago

                  Killing is, so that’s sufficient to prove my point.

                  In 99% of other cases (meat produced via factory farming), yes other widespread abuses have also been proven. You’re engaging this discussion in bad faith by denying simple truths

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                10 months ago

                It sure is better than it would be if all the vegans and vegetarians were consuming meat.

                this can’t be proven

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            What’s better for the environment? Eating mass produced vegatables? Anything mass produced isn’t sustainable.

            People have to eat. That’s the bottom line. What we eat and how we eat is important.

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              10 months ago

              Good question. Yes, eating mass produced veggies is better for the environment (and less systemic cruelty) then eating meat.