Somehow paying for Netflix is fine but god forbid I want to watch a 10 hour loop of the DS9 intro without ads.
I think most people are angry with YouTube premium because it’s a service that doesn’t give you anything. It’s a service where they stop annoying you. But it doesn’t unlock anything new that you didn’t have before, doesn’t give you access to content or data you don’t have access to, it doesn’t improve the service. It just removes the annoyances they put there deliberately. So people are a little angry about it
It’s a protection racket, for your attention and time.
It includes youtube music. And creators you watch get more money than if you watched using the ad supported version.
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You also get to play video with a screen off on mobile
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You also get to download for offline viewing
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You also support the creators of the videos, not just google.
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AND FFS YOU DONT GET ADS.
Using adblock isnt some innate human right. They are well within their rights to block adblock.
You get almost the whole worlds information for free in video form. You can be entertained or use it as a teaching tool. It is the best place at this point for product demos and reviews. It is a crazy wealth of information and infrastructure that everyone takes advantage of and somehow just expect to be free. If Google cancells it because it is not profitable, i would bet the efficiency of the entire human race takes a significant nose dive. It also probably runs one of the highest sets of data storage and encoding on the planet.
People are ridiculous sometimes. These companies aren’t going to eat millions of dollars per day in hosting costs to appease the minority who expect everything to just be given to them.
I kinda want Google to just cancel YouTube. Shit would be hilarious. Also sad and we would lose soooooo much information. But still I kinda just want to see what happens. What new players enter the game, will the monopoly be broken? Though I’m sure Microsoft, Amazon, and other big boys would roll their own versions of YouTube and effectively there would not be a difference, just a small amount of fragmentation.
But still…
Can do all of those things without premium if you have the right apps.
But besides that, absolutely not. I remember when YouTube was free with no ads, I remember when the adverts first started appearing, and that’s when it became obvious that they were trying to annoy you into a pay model. It took a little longer than expected, but sure enough, they ramped up the ads until “YOUTUBE PREMIUM! PAY FOR NO ADVERTS!”
Fuck that, I had no adverts before and they took that away. But the worst part is that they harvest my private data and make money from me already. As far as I’m concerned, that’s my subscription to their shit, in their perverse data selling.
No fucking way I’m going to also pay them for the privilege to have my private data sold.
It’s almost like they were bleeding money and needed to at least break even.
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I thought YouTube music was a separate subscription?
It is not, unless they perhaps have a YT Music-only subscription but I haven’t seen such.
It’s a protection racket, for your attention and time.
It is, but it is only between the free and paid versions. I can’t expect a service to exist for my use without some form of compensation. I’d rather pay with money than time.
Thats one way to look at it.
The other way is to compare it to the free netflix tier… which doesnt exist.
IMO even being pestered to death I’m slightly amazed that its still free at all.
The problem with this point of view is that Netflix either produces its own content or rents content from other producers. YouTube doesn’t produce its own content and also doesn’t rent content from producers… it only pays them a percentage of ad revenue (to be comparable to Netflix, YouTube would have to pay creators up front regardless of ad revenue they generate). YouTube profits from the content production of its users, and doesn’t actually pay a fair amount for it. For them to charge for access to that content is just… egregious.
People post their content to YT for 3 primary reasons
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Hosting is free. (In which case they are implicitly giving YT permission to profit off them in return for not charging hosting fees.
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They want the largest possible potential audience. Which YT spent a mind boggling amount of money and effort to build. (Although I do wish they had some form of legitimate competition, cant argue that point)
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They want to make money off the advertising revenue. (Which aside from Floatplane, is next to impossible to do otherwise)
There is nothing stopping content creators from hosting their own videos on their own servers they pay for but they dont. Because how do you generate the traffic? How do you get clickthroughs? How do you generate income, or just cover expenses?
YT dont owe you anything for free. Its not egregious, its business.
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While I use piped myself I am k with their business model, its just degrading every year making the experience worse for everyone. YouTube can’t be compared to Netflix if you look at the bandwidth and the amount of users who don’t pay for it. Hosting such a huge video sharing platform for free will never be profitable and the only other way is to make it paid only like Netflix which is obviously not gonna happen. Yeah they have 0 morals, yeah google sucks ass, yeah they treat their users like pigs but wishing it should be completely free with no ads is just wishful thinking.
The fact that they made it worse so they could lock what we had behind a paywall is what permanently killed YouTube for me. I will bend over backwards to make sure they never receive a penny at this point. They could have added or improved features but they just made everything shitty instead lol screw them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_IaVMsCbf8
It’s just a little advertisment
Come to Quarks, Quarks is fun, Don’t walk Run!
it doesn’t improve the service.
Doesn’t it do exactly that? It removes the ads whoch makes it way better.
But it doesn’t unlock anything new that you didn’t have before
It does give you access to higher quality streaming though, offline play, background play, video queue, picture in picture and youtube music premium. Do you even know what you are talking about?
Yes I do, thank you for asking.
There was some original content, there is offline play, ad removal, however they should allow premium to skip sponsor ads too if you ask me.
I thought it was a decent deal for $15/mo for family of 3 using it for music and yt. $23 is pushing it.
You’d have a much stronger point if all the following were free: bandwidth, server farms, developers, support staff.
Since they aren’t, something needs to pay for those. I’m paying to not see that something.
Youtube constantly demonitizes content creators, while protecting doxxers and content thieves. I will not be giving them a single red cent.
If your reason is only moral, then you should also never use the service.
I subscribe to YouTube Music and have since the Play days (R.I.P.). Watching videos without ads is just a perk.
This is basically my stance. Its also one of a very few subs I use, I don’t really care to watch streaming services or to pay for the slightly (maybe?) better other music streaming services.
Youtube does not offer Content instead they offer space to publish Videos and have Youtube Music.
The Price they are deamding is too high as if they Produce own Content and Music.
Youtube Premium would only be viable for me if i can be anonymous to buy it and removes age restriction,perma bann for YT Shorts the worst they done.
I cannot give a Company money that it this rotten.
Monopoly of YT is just sad.
Back when it was still called YouTube Red, they actually used to create exclusive content (or at least fund the creator). It was a selling point at the time. Now they just increase the number of ads to make not paying for it hurt more…
Oh yeah didn’t they have a conclusion movie for Smosh about Anthony dying and becoming Ian’s ghost roommate?
Someone needs to find a way to make it cheaper to host videos on a server, because the second you do that second a viable YouTube alternative can show up
Somehow paying for Netflix is fine
I was saying paying for Netflix is not fineIs praying for netflix fine?
Only praying for it to die
paying for netflix isn’t fine either
Meanwhile I’m over here like:
That scene when he struts up to the guys naked and full of attitude in Chernobyl should have won him an emmy. Love this actor!
It is genuinely embarrassing how much that scene did for me. God that whole series is great.
What series is this?
Chernobyl.
I think I’m more ok with people playing for YouTube premium. It still helps the creators on YouTube more directly than Netflix
except it helps scammers and content thieves more than it helps actual legitimate creators…
Hear me out: ublock origin on your computer and revanced manager on your phone.
And for my old smart TV? Or when I’m at work?
I use iPhone. And I like downloading videos way way way too much. UBlock origin is goated tho.
And I don’t want ads when I cast to my tv.
https://github.com/qnblackcat/uYouPlus/wiki/Installation
You can sideload an adblocking YouTube app on iOS
Or use a PiHole for your entire network.
That is very useful information. Thanks!
What are the risks of installing a third party App Store like this. I notice it was called TrollStore.
PiHole can block YouTube ads? Specifically on iOS?? Didn’t think DNS blocking could accomplish this and an app like Magic Lasso was required?
I use NextDNS and it cannot block iOS YouTube ads.
Honestly not entirely sure about iOS. I use a PiHole and several other adblocking solutions, but don’t personally use any apple devices. Family members with iOS devices have repeatedly commented that they are confused and delighted that they never see ads at my house, though.
Here’s the thing: how much YouTube content creators are really affected by ad blockers varies widely, and that’s due to several factors such as what region their main viewership is in, their subject matter, and how many viewers of each creator fit the demographic that might use ad blockers. YouTube is the only entity that would have the real data on the real impact to content creators due to ad blockers, and it’s believed that the reason they don’t share that data is so that they can inflate the numbers in order to claim greater losses than they actually suffer— and while that may very well be a strong motivation, I believe the primary motivation to be to hide the wide variation in levels of compensation between their top content creators. If the ad-blocking impact data became public, it would also reveal the wide disparities in how much YouTube compensates different tiers of content creators and would make public deals with top creators that have, until now, remained private.
This so why it’s always discussed in vague terms and as some existential threat— which is is, for them.
It’s called uBlock Origin
Doesn’t work on iPad. Kindly share workarounds anyone.
DNS? sideload? Barter for a better tablet? /j
I pay for it so my kids’ accounts don’t have ads. They’re too young to sort out all the edge cases that aggressive ad blocking generates and for a bonus we get youtube music.
I just find the cost of Premium to be too high.
Here in Sweden it costs about 120SEK/month, that is far too much, I’d happily pay 60-70SEK/month, that would be worth it to me.
And would still give rhem more money than me not watching ads
Is that much more than Spotify in Sweden?
I believe it’s someone else’s hard earned money, if they want to throw money to have what is objectively a better viewing experience, then it’s not my problem.
Im confused. Whos the somone elses hard earned money? And who is the they?
I believe what they are saying is, they don’t judge how other people spend their own money.
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