‘Nothing is changing’ — Reddit is denying a report from The Washington Post that it might force users to log in to see content if it can’t reach deals with AI companies::Reddit initially denied a report from The Washington Post that it might force users to log in to see content. However, the Post says it may still block search crawlers, and Reddit didn’t deny to The Verge that it may do so.
Nothing is changing says company that keeps changing everything
After saying they won’t
Yeah, Reddit lies constantly. About everything. I guarantee they just weren’t ready to announce this yet but they will by the end of the year. It’s not the first time they’ve pulled this routine.
If they haven’t reached deals with AI companies by limiting the API, then why haven’t they returned access to third party app developers? They obviously see how far their engagement and quality has dropped.
I won’t use their official app, ever.
Even if they return to the old standard, they have shown to be too unreliable and ready for scummy corporate decisions.
I have an account for hockey. Laptop only via Firefox, eat my donkey spez
It’s fine for porn tho
I have never understood this reasoning. Obviously the few determined actors for training data will just start scraping for content.
Didn’t Steve Huffman praise Elon Musk and say that his handling of Twitter was an example for him? Perfectly natural for him to think it would somehow be a good idea to make account creation mandatory on Reddit.
“I’m also a CEO that can really shake things up” Immediately tanks the companies value and user base like Elon
The little bug-eyed, recessed-chin pedophile is so out of touch.
I’ll tell ya one thing that’s changed. I deleted my posts and comments, along with my account last night after being inactive since June. Idiots
Did you use a program to scrub that? I haven’t been on since June, but I wouldn’t mind twisting the knife a bit.
Redact. I will say, I was on there over 11 years and it took almost 2 hours for it to wipe my comments
Use ViolentMonkey/GreaseMonkey scripts in Firefox.
It will rewrite your comments with gibberish, and then deletes them automatically. Just open your reddit account comments page, turn on the script, and watch, or walk away.
Completely free.
I still use RedReader on occasion on mobile, and then every few days turn the script on from my PC, and repeat as needed
Check via Google, Reddit is known for recovering deleted comments against user consent.
people talk about how big AI is but, It’ll crash like everything else as enshittification hits. I tried to use Bing AI the other day for the first time in a few months, it didn’t even let me do more then a handful of entries before locking me out saying I used too many queries in 24h. How is that supposed to be helpful to a consumer as a valid feature of you lock it down.
Yeah, hasn’t anyone else noticed that there hasn’t been a single profitable product to come out of it? Even copilot is biting the dust already as they try to reduce computing costs. I also haven’t heard of a single person actually paying for chatgpt access either…
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Yes, but it is not profitable for it to run like this. I would speculate that payed users are the vast minority.
I paid 20 bucks plus VAT last week for a month of access to try the new dalle in chatgpt, it has just dropped.
I work in healthcare tech and can guarantee there are exciting things coming down the pipeline in that domain
Lol. I will believe it when I see it. I don’t think LLMs especially will do that much good in Healthcare, and I would be particulary wary of them diagnosing patients. Aside from some very limited signal analysis for telehealth, I am very wary on the applications of “new” AI on healthcare. I believe it will be a disaster.
Unless you’re a medical professional, you probably won’t see it.
8f your in enterprise software, this stuff is pretty malleable. You are regularly asked to give pitches and lectures on medical projects, for sales reasons. You would be surprised - most people that work on this stuff have no idea the fist thing about medicine.
My Mom’s a doctor, so I can ask her to have a bit of insight about this stuff. The challenges facing healthcare don’t have that much to do with technology, at least in the US.
Anything you can share?
We’re largely still working with LLMs at the moment – Using them to immediately pull in relevant clinical information from previous encounters when a doctor sees a patient. Or using generative AI to edit doctors’ messages to patients be more empathetic and… human (our pilot organizations have really loved this one so far). Using procedure codes on claims to guess if certain diagnoses were missed and to make more robust health risk profiles for populations as a whole – these are a bit more NLP/data mining.
Much of this seems like a bad idea imo.
Hey, same (or at least similar)
I and many of my coworkers pay for ChatGPT. It’s super useful at work and can be used to save a considerable amount of time.
I’m in all the business meetings. “Use Chatham to save time generating analysis” or something like that. I think it has been proven that merely using it as a tool to generate content isn’t profitable- at some level even your paid subscription is subsidized by VC money. The real test is if it provides “valuable” content. But then why does your employer even need you to make the prompts? Don’t worry, I believe LLMs are fundamentally incapable of this and that your job is safe.
Those companies learned their lesson from search engines. They gave it away for free for far too long and with too few strings attached. It became impossible to realistically gate features and charge for them.
But chatbots, on the other hand, just need a little big money razzle dazzle and, boom, now it is AI and people are conditioned to accept any limits thrown at them.
Google made a very profitable ad business fromt heir search engine.
I get why some limits are necessary, a company doesn’t want a Microsoft Tae repeat…but after Chat GPT was made available to the public, the rapid addition of a whole range of guardrails made it nearly immediately unusable.
You ask it about anything which is controversial in the slightest regard and it shuts down, which for me at least, removes any interest in using it.
It would be pure foolishness to trust Reddit and its management.
In the future, they will be seen by all in a somewhat similar light of failure emitted by Twitter
Dude this would kill the only reason I ever visit this site.
Reddit: Nothing’s changing. Also Reddit: It’s changing.
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They 100% are. Without anyone’s consent. Lemmy instances will even send all the data to your own instance’s db! No scraping required even!
I haven’t had a close look at lemmy.world recent TOS, but I’d be adding a revenue share clause to any posts used to train models originating from their instance’s community
I don’t really care if they use my data in the slightest. I’m putting it out publicly on the internet, so w/e
The securest way to know reddit will do something is if they claim they will not do something. Spez is constantly lying.
DOOOO IT!!!
Too bad builtin reddit search completely sucks.
This will actually make search more viable in the long run because at the moment too much of the solutions for small technical problems are on reddit. The main driver from new users will be gone.
Fuck Huffman
If this had been what they did to start with, I’d still be there. I was always logged in
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Washington Post reported Friday that Reddit might cut off Google and force users to log in to Reddit itself to read anything if it can’t reach deals with generative AI companies to pay for its data.
The Washington Post’s report wasn’t just focused on Reddit — it’s about how more than 535 news organizations have opted to block their content from being scraped by companies like OpenAI to help train products such as ChatGPT.
According to the original report, Reddit is in negotiations with AI companies to get them to pay to use its data, and if it couldn’t strike those agreements, it might require logins to see content.
That could have the knock-on effect of preventing Reddit results from showing up in Google searches.
(In my June interview with Reddit CEO Steve Huffman, he said that “we’re in talks” with AI companies about the pricing changes.
X, formerly Twitter, has also implemented new pricing tiers for accessing its API, and X owner Elon Musk blamed data scraping by AI startups as a way to justify the reading limits implemented this summer.
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