• Feydaikin@beehaw.org
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    11 months ago

    It’s all a matter of personal taste. But yeah, Beth’s best games are definitely in the past.

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      Yeah, as someone who hasn’t played Starfield and has no interest in playing it, all their criticisms were just saying they didn’t care for the style starfield was going for. Which is fine, but that doesn’t make it a bad game.

      It could be that “NASA punk” is boring to 99/100 people, but that doesn’t mean a game in that style is bad. I think we can all agree that games that are enthralling to a very niche set of people are a good thing, because we all want that game to be for us. We don’t want or expect every game to be equally enthralling to every person.

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        For me, the “NASA punk” wasn’t the turn off.

        Starfield could have been a great game. But the general route Beth has taken with Fallout, and continued in Starfield, doesn’t appeal to me. Pointless building filler, environmental storytelling over actual storytelling, radient quests everywhere and so on.

        I have no doubt they’ll do the same with TES. Just half-assing it really. Skyrim was already pretty flat, so…

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          Yeah, Morrowind was mind blowing when it came out. Then I skipped Oblivion, and Skyrim, mechanically, wasn’t that much of a leap over Morrowind. Sure it looked better and had voice acting, but it still feels like a static world. I wouldn’t consider Witcher 3 to be quite the same genre as TES, but imo W3 raised the bar for my expectations from Bethesda. So far I think they still have not made a game as good as W3.

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            Witcher 3 is a CDProjectRed game.

            I don’t think Beth’ is capable of making a game even close to The Witcher 3. XD

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        No don’t you understand? They gathered two other people, who work directly with them reviewing games the same way they do. If they don’t like it it means it’s a bad game. Obviously!

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      People will point at Skyrim and Morrowind to showcase how much better their older games were, but pretend Oblivion didn’t happen. :P

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          Personally I feel that way about Morrowind - mechanically it’s like a stripped down, worse version of Daggerfall while also being an inferior implementation of a fully 3d game than Oblivion.

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            Morrowind is imo the best from a gameplay mechanics perspective. The utility magic alone was such a huge loss for future games.

            I could cast levitation, walk up to the moon prison, magically open the lock, use chameleon to sneak inside, steal stuff from 30 feet away with telekinesis, and if the guards find me, jump down with slowfall and then escape underwater with waterbreathing.

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              Daggerfall has most of that, and has extra stuff like the ability to climb walls without magic! IMO the dice-roll combat also feels way better in Daggerfall than in Morrowind.

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          Yeah personally I reckon that Oblivion and Daggerfall are the two best TES games ever made - both are better than Morrowind, and significantly better than Skyrim.

          I also reckon that Starfield will be up there with Oblivion and Daggerfall a couple years after the modding tools are released!