• Shadow@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Or they’re a tool to give the employee some quantifiable and measurable areas they need to improve on. This way both sides are clear of expectations and there’s no surprises.

    Not all bosses suck. I’ve had to put a few people on them and they’ve helped, never had to fire someone afterwards.

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      That’s certainly a possibility, but if someone told me they were put on a PIP, and asked me what they should expect, I’d tell them that in all likelihood it means that they are going to be let go in the near future.

      It’s a different story if the company does regular performance management with all employees. For example I work in the public sector and we do annual performance reviews, but also annual performance agreements, which are basically PIPs but without the prerequisite that performance has diminished.

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      At my previous job I think they actually published stats on pips internally and it was like 50% success rate. I mean it’s not great but the alternative is you just get straight up fired. I think PIP is probably generally a good thing.

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        1 year ago

        I’ve issued like 10 pips in my time managing I have a 40% success rate. Plenty of companies really do try to make them successful.

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        They literally said “never had to fire anyone”

        But… ok, sure let’s go with your “interpretation”

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          Nah you just don’t get it. Firing is a capitalist invention designed by the elite to keep the population down. Everyone is an excellent employee and every manager everywhere is getting a bonus and poorly utilizing team skills.